[cisco-voip] kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp - CDR flat files are backingup.

Wes Sisk wsisk at cisco.com
Fri May 20 13:55:00 EDT 2005


sql query analyzer or from cmd prompt:
osql -E
sp_who2
go

/Wes

-----Original Message-----
From: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:47 PM
To: Wes Sisk; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp - CDR flat files are
backingup.


How do you do a sp_who2?

Will it list if there are sith tasks running?

--- Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:

> Erick,
> 
> CDR Load and DBL Maint purge are very intesive ops
> for SQL.  scheduling
> those separate sounds like a good start.
> 
> to get hard data, schedule a sql job to run during
> you outage windows that
> does 'sp_who2' or stay up to watch 'Revenge of the
> Sith' and then run it
> your self.  That will report all sql  tasks active,
> who owns them, what they
> are doing, their cpu & diskIO usage etc.  Should
> provide a couple of good
> pointers.
> 
> /Wes
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:47 PM
> To: Wes Sisk; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp -
> CDR flat files are
> backingup.
> 
> 
> 
> Are you talking about the InsertCDR detailed trace
> or
> a different log file?
> 
> The InsertCDR trace at time has a entry at 12:24am
> about reading configurastion, then nothing until
> 12:34am which is the line about 10 minute timeout
> occurred.
> 
> The CDR insert process is not stopping/starting by
> itself as PID is same the past few days I've been
> looking on this. I did restart the process once per
> the workaround in the bug id mentioned below. PID
> has
> been same since though.
> 
> Nothing in event logs (application, system,
> security)
> at this time other then the database layer monitor
> errors about CDR.  Is there some other SQL logs I
> should be looking at?
> 
> The IPT SQL job runs at 1am daily. The first error
> occurs before that job starts.
> 
> The Database Layer Monitor service maint period is
> at
> 24 hr and runs for 2 hours. 12am to 2am.
> 
> The CDR load runs at 19:20 hours for 90 minutes
> Uninhibited load from 18:20 hrs to 05:00 hrs
> 
> CDR database purge is set to auto purge after 120
> days.
> 
> Someone in cisco discussion forums suggested I also
> restart the database layer monitor service to try to
> clear the problem.
> 
> Should we maybe try adjusting time of database layer
> maint period? so it doesn't run at same time as CDR
> Load?
> 
> --- Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:
> > Check the cdr insert log around that time. Looks
> > like SQL may be dropping
> > offline or too busy to process the cdr insert
> > request.  could be the service
> > stopping i guess.  make sure the PID does not
> change
> > day to day for
> > cdrinsert.  any change would reflect a crash or
> > service restart for some
> > reason.  check the SQL server logs around that
> time
> > and see if it reported
> > any events.
> >
> > this may be due to the IPT optimization job
> running,
> > or the CDR purge
> > process running.  the 1st is a job in sql - when
> is
> > it scheduled to run?
> > The 2nd is done by database layer monitor and
> timing
> > is set by the dblm
> > service parameters.  what time is it set to run?
> >
> > on that same line the ART cdr purge could cause
> the
> > same issue.  is ART/CAR
> > configured to purge the CDR database and if so,
> what
> > time?
> >
> > /Wes
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]On
> Behalf
> > Of Erick Bergquist
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:16 PM
> > To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: [cisco-voip] kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp -
> CDR
> > flat files are
> > backingup.
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Has anyone had the below in Application event log
> > and
> > know a fix for issue? I found a bug id that
> matches
> > on
> > this (CSCeg37424) but the workaround is not
> working.
> >
> > The InsertCDR detailed trace is turned on and the
> > error happens at 12:24am and the entry in trace
> file
> > is at 12:34am saying 10 minute timeout occurred.
> > Nothing in trace between 12:24 and 12:34.
> >
> > Issue was found in CCM 4.0(1)ES 17.1 and marked as
> > unreproducable.  This is on Call Manager
> > 4.0(2a)Sr1a.
> >
> > Workaround from bug id is to kill the insertcdr
> > process using c:\utils\kill command then restart
> the
> > CDR insert service.
> >
> > These errors are occuring at 12:24am and 1:24am
> > nightly like clockwork. Not during day and CDR is
> > working fine. BARS runs earlier before midnight.
> > There
> > are no CDR flat files in the CDR folder either.
> They
> > show up briefly then get inserted and deleted. We
> > have
> > a few files in the bad folder but not from this
> time
> > period. Maybe 1-2 bad cdr flat files a day.
> >
> >
> > Event Type:	Error
> > Event Source:	Cisco Database Layer Monitor
> > Event Category:	None
> > Event ID:	3
> > Date:		5/18/2005
> > Time:		1:24:32 AM
> > User:		N/A
> > Computer:	CCM1
> > Description:
> > Error: kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp - CDR flat files
> are
> > backing up.
> >   App ID: Cisco Database Layer Monitor
> >   Cluster ID: CCM1-Cluster
> >   Node ID: 172.16.2.20
> > Explanation: CDR flat files are not being removed.
> > On
> > the primary CDR
> > server, verify that the InsertCDR service is
> running
> > and properly
> > configured. On a server not the primary, verify
> that
> > the location for
> > collecting CDR files is accessible via the
> network.
> > Recommended Action: Set trace for InsertCDR
> service
> > to
> > detailed and
> > look
> > for errors in the trace.  Check enterprise CDR
> > parameters for
> > accuracy..
> >
> >
> >
> >
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