[cisco-voip] kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp - CDR flat files are backingup.

Erick Bergquist erickbe at yahoo.com
Mon May 23 10:39:52 EDT 2005


Wes,

I'm going to go ahead and open a TAC Case on this. Now
the error is happening at 5:23am instead of 12:24am so
must be some thing with the database layer monitor
maint causing this error.

--- Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:

> Open a TAC case for this CU and we can open a bug
> for more formal 
> investiation and broad sweeping fix.
> 
> check the steps of the job.  last i checked it
> optimized the ccm and cdr 
> databases.  that includes rebuilding indexes which
> would affect the 
> accessibility of those db's for operations.
> 
> /Wes
> 
> Erick Bergquist wrote:
> 
> >Ok, Looks like adjusting time of database layer
> >monitor job to run from 5am to 7am got rid of the
> >error. I moved the time back and the error came
> back
> >just to make sure it wasn't something else.
> >
> >So, my question is, how come the default times for
> >these jobs conflict with other SQL jobs being done
> by
> >other applications?
> >
> >Database layer monitor default setting is 12am to
> 2am
> >CDR load default time is 12am to 5am
> >
> >Seems like issues may happen like this customer had
> if
> >you are loading and purging at same time by two
> >different processes. 
> >
> >I did not change the time of the CIPT SQL
> Optimization
> >yet. Does this job touch the CDR database or just
> CCM
> >database?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Erick
> >
> >--- Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Check the cdr insert log around that time. Looks
> >>like SQL may be dropping
> >>offline or too busy to process the cdr insert
> >>request.  could be the service
> >>stopping i guess.  make sure the PID does not
> change
> >>day to day for
> >>cdrinsert.  any change would reflect a crash or
> >>service restart for some
> >>reason.  check the SQL server logs around that
> time
> >>and see if it reported
> >>any events.
> >>
> >>this may be due to the IPT optimization job
> running,
> >>or the CDR purge
> >>process running.  the 1st is a job in sql - when
> is
> >>it scheduled to run?
> >>The 2nd is done by database layer monitor and
> timing
> >>is set by the dblm
> >>service parameters.  what time is it set to run?
> >>
> >>on that same line the ART cdr purge could cause
> the
> >>same issue.  is ART/CAR
> >>configured to purge the CDR database and if so,
> what
> >>time?
> >>
> >>/Wes
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> >>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]On
> Behalf
> >>Of Erick Bergquist
> >>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:16 PM
> >>To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> >>Subject: [cisco-voip] kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp -
> CDR
> >>flat files are
> >>backingup.
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Has anyone had the below in Application event log
> >>and
> >>know a fix for issue? I found a bug id that
> matches
> >>on
> >>this (CSCeg37424) but the workaround is not
> working.
> >>
> >>The InsertCDR detailed trace is turned on and the
> >>error happens at 12:24am and the entry in trace
> file
> >>is at 12:34am saying 10 minute timeout occurred.
> >>Nothing in trace between 12:24 and 12:34.
> >>
> >>Issue was found in CCM 4.0(1)ES 17.1 and marked as
> >>unreproducable.  This is on Call Manager
> >>4.0(2a)Sr1a.
> >>
> >>Workaround from bug id is to kill the insertcdr
> >>process using c:\utils\kill command then restart
> the
> >>CDR insert service.
> >>
> >>These errors are occuring at 12:24am and 1:24am
> >>nightly like clockwork. Not during day and CDR is
> >>working fine. BARS runs earlier before midnight.
> >>There
> >>are no CDR flat files in the CDR folder either.
> They
> >>show up briefly then get inserted and deleted. We
> >>have
> >>a few files in the bad folder but not from this
> time
> >>period. Maybe 1-2 bad cdr flat files a day.
> >>
> >>
> >>Event Type:	Error
> >>Event Source:	Cisco Database Layer Monitor
> >>Event Category:	None
> >>Event ID:	3
> >>Date:		5/18/2005
> >>Time:		1:24:32 AM
> >>User:		N/A
> >>Computer:	CCM1
> >>Description:
> >>Error: kErrorCDRFilesBackingUp - CDR flat files
> are
> >>backing up.
> >>  App ID: Cisco Database Layer Monitor
> >>  Cluster ID: CCM1-Cluster
> >>  Node ID: 172.16.2.20
> >>Explanation: CDR flat files are not being removed.
> 
> >>On
> >>the primary CDR
> >>server, verify that the InsertCDR service is
> running
> >>and properly
> >>configured. On a server not the primary, verify
> that
> >>the location for
> >>collecting CDR files is accessible via the
> network.
> >>Recommended Action: Set trace for InsertCDR
> service
> >>to
> >>detailed and
> >>look
> >>for errors in the trace.  Check enterprise CDR
> >>parameters for
> >>accuracy..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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