[cisco-voip] GiGE phones -what for?!?

Matt Slaga (US) Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com
Wed Aug 2 10:58:47 EDT 2006


The Gig-E phones were Cisco's response to them taking flack for pushing
Gig to the desktop, but their flagship voice applications limited the
user to 100mb.  There is nothing the phones could ever do to use it up,
it is only for the user plugged into the phone (and for Cisco's
marketing staff).






-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Burwell
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:51 AM
To: netfortius at gmail.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] GiGE phones -what for?!?

It is possible they may have been oversold on cabling. After Cat6, cable
manufacturers have kept making cabling solutions that have far more
capacity than most offices environments really need. I guess they all
want to have the "best" product. I have seen where good cabling sales
teams will stress the need for GigE and beyond to justify a cabling
system that exceeds their requirements. This may have caused your
customer to be under the perception that they need Gig to the desktop.
We use Systimax Cat6 which will run GigE fine. I'm sure this will last
us quite awhile as we are still 100 to the desktop. I know Siemon has a
copper cabling system that will handle 10Gig to the Desktop. Aside from
special applications, I can imagine the need for 10GIG to the desktop at
least in the next 10 years, but I may be wrong.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Netfortius
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:57 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] GiGE phones -what for?!?

Hi, everyone,

I have had a strange request from a subsidiary of ours, in regards to a
new 
VoIP network design, in an office environment with 100-150 users, in
regards 
to supporting GiGE to the all the end points, and high end 6500's at the

core, w/720 SUP's. The Cisco reps were asking for that presumably
because of 
need to support GiGE phones. And here is my question: what would you use

Cisco GiGE phones for (what application on the phone would be able to
push 
and require such port speeds)?!?

As as a side note: our original design provided 4500's and 10/100
modules to 
the end points, except for a module with GiGE for file servers
connectivity. 
Of course the pricing of the former is triple compared to the latter,
but I 
would like to find out some technical aspects related to justifying the
first 
option, before even bringing up the cost issue.

Thanks,
Stefan
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