[cisco-voip] Callmanager version 5.0 Upgrade

Charles J. Boening charlieb at cot.net
Tue Aug 29 11:19:21 EDT 2006


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Alfred,

Your version should be supported by 5.0.4 DMA Tool.  I'd suggest opening
a TAC case.  Maybe try a reboot if you can then install again.  If you
have a publisher/subscriber, then I think you're supposed to run the
tool on the publisher.  Also, you have to install the DMA Tool on the
CCM server itself.  You can't install to a workstation or another
server.

Good luck,
Charlie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thyri Alfred [mailto:alfred.thyri at mii.at] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:43 AM
> To: Charles J. Boening; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Callmanager version 5.0 Upgrade
> 
> Hi Charlie,
> 
> I tried to install the dma tool (5.0(4)) on our CCM 4.1(3)sr2 
> installation with bad luck :-(
> 
> In the log file I found something interesting:
> 13:54:15: DMAInstall.cpp: fnInitDMAInstallProperty:      Error: Init
> SZCMVER from default because of invalid szCCMBuildVersion = 4.1(3)
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiSetProperty:         Function started
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiSetProperty:         
> CCMInstalled = "False"
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiSetProperty:         Function ended
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiSetProperty:         Function started
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiSetProperty:         SZCMVER = "2"
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiSetProperty:         Function ended
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiGetProperty:         Function started
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiGetProperty:         REINSTALL = ""
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiGetProperty:         Function ended
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiGetProperty:         Function started
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiGetProperty:         SZSETUPTYPE = ""
> 13:54:15: MSIUtils.cpp: fnMsiGetProperty:         Function ended
> 
> It seems that our version is not supported by the dma tool, 
> although it should be supported.
> 
> I also tried to check with Upgrade Utility (version 4.2(2)), 
> with the result that everything is ok but the hardware should 
> be upgraded. We already ordered new hardware...
> 
> 
> Do you have any hints for me?? Somebody else?
> 
> cheers,
> Alfred.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Charles J.
> Boening
> Sent: Dienstag, 29. August 2006 05:40
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager version 5.0 Upgrade
> 
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> Here's my experience with upgrading to CCM5.
> 
> I came from a CCM 4.0(2a) system running on an ICS7750 to CCM 
> 5.0(3) running on my own supplied IBM server.  Cisco 
> documentation indicated my IBM server (8491G2U) was supported 
> in this release.  I actually purchased it based on Cisco 
> documentation and specifications just for this application.  
> Turns out that the 8841G2U was supported by the installer but 
> the 8491G2U wasn't.  The only difference between these two is 
> the warranty.  One has a 1yr warranty and the one I had came 
> with a 3yr on-site warranty.  Other than that, there are no 
> hardware differences.  TAC opened a bug case and was supposed 
> to fix the documentation.  I think TAC said I'd have to wait 
> for 5.0(4) which wouldn't be available on DVD for a few more 
> months or whatever it was.
> Being the nosey person I am, I snooped around and found where 
> in the installer to change it to recognize my machine type.  
> I ended up making an ISO image and used a hex editor to 
> change the file the installer reads so my machine type would 
> be supported.  :)  Please don't ask what file I changed as 
> I'm sure Cisco wouldn't want that information floating 
> around.  I'm sure some of the more industrious users out 
> there will be able to figure it out on their own.  For the 
> rest,  I'm sure someone will post the information on some 
> message board or somewhere at some point.  :)
> 
> During my data export from CCM 4.x, I ended up having some 
> data inconsistencies in my 4.x database that caused export 
> errors.  A call to TAC and a few days later, they had found 
> and fixed the problems.  I was then able to successfully 
> export out my old data using DMA 5.0.4.
> 
> Importing of Windows CCM data is done during the installation process.
> In my playing around, I had successfully installed CCM5 
> without importing any data.  Once installed, I saw no 
> provisions for importing the data after the installation.  
> So, with exported data in hand (actually on a local FTP 
> server), I went through the installer process and came up 
> with some errors when importing Windows DMA data.  I didn't 
> see any documentation indicating it, but it turns out the 
> name of my new CCM had to match the name of the machine I was 
> coming from.  The IP address may have had to match too but 
> I'm not sure.  Per TAC request, I set both the machine name 
> and IP address so they were the same as my current production 
> system.  This wasn't a problem since I was building the new 
> server on it's own VLAN for testing.  Once this was done, the 
> install went very smooth and all my data was imported.  I was 
> actually very impressed with the installer and it's ease of 
> use.  Not that there's much to it, but it was all pretty easy 
> and straight forward.
> 
> All in all I'd say the installation and upgrade went pretty 
> well.  I was a little disappointed with a couple of TAC 
> people and their slowness to respond.  At one point I waited 
> over a week for a response.  Fortunately I had enough other 
> duties to keep me busy in the meantime.  I think overall I 
> spent about two to three weeks off and on between messing 
> with things on my own and waiting on TAC.
> 
> Post upgrade everything is running very well.  My Unity 
> integration, Attendant Console and everything else came over 
> just fine.  I also have a SIP trunk to an Asterisk box that 
> came right up and is running fine as well.  I'm using MGCP on 
> a 1760V router to two PRIs.  I have no FXO or FXS lines.  
> We're actually a small rural telephone company so I have 
> plenty of CO lines available for fax machines and such.  :)
> 
> The only issue I've had so far is with shared line 
> appearances.  In the old system I had 3 extensions shared 
> across seven phones.  I had call forward busy from one 
> extension to the other with the last extension going to 
> voicemail on busy.  All extensions go to voicemail on no 
> answer.  After the conversion the forwarding wasn't working 
> right.  If someone was on the first line, callers would go 
> right to voicemail or get a fast busy; I don't remember 
> which.  In the end I think I had to mess with the number of 
> concurrent calls on the line.  I increased the max calls for 
> each phone on all extensions to the number of shared lines
> + 1.  I did this on both 7940 and 7960 phones that shared the
> extensions.  I set the busy call trigger to 1 and everything 
> seems to be working ok.  In CCM5, there seems to be more of a 
> distinction between lines and phones.  You can edit lines 
> directly without even going through the phone config.  A 
> little confusing at first but not bad once you figure it all out.
> 
> One more issue I have is doing the 5.0(4a) update.  I'm currently at
> 5.0(4) but it seems that updates are now required to be 
> signed and the update posted on CCO isn't.  Oh well, another 
> call to TAC I guess.  :)
> 
> We've been live for about two weeks now.  Everything has been 
> running very smooth and so far I'm pleased with CCM5.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Manoj Kalpage
> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:04 PM
> > To: Matt Slaga (US)
> > Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager version 5.0 Upgrade
> > 
> > Thank you very much for the reply as always.
> > What is your recommendation to upgrade to Version 5.0? Does 
> this work 
> > smoothly? Anyone had any bad experience of upgrading to 5.0?
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> > Manoj
> > 
> >  
> > On 8/28/06, Matt Slaga (US) <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > 	Manoj-
> > 
> > 	 
> > 
> > 	CallManager 5.0 only runs on Linux.  While you can upgrade from
> 4.0 
> > or 4.1 to 5.0, it requires a complete rebuild and restore 
> process to 
> > migrate the data from SQL to Informix under the new linux platform.
> > There is no 5.0 that runs on win2k.
> > 
> > 	 
> > 
> > 	 
> > 
> > 	
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > 
> > 	From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Manoj Kalpage
> > 	Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:04 PM
> > 
> > 	
> > 	To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > 	
> > 	Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager version 5.0 Upgrade
> > 
> > 	
> > 
> > 	 
> > 
> > 	Hi All,
> > 
> > 	Please someone help me if I am wrong here.
> > 
> > 	My Understanding is CallManager 4.0 can be upgraded to 
> Callamanger 
> > 5.x keeping existing windows 2000 OS but new installation 
> only work on 
> > Linux.
> > 
> > 	 
> > 
> > 	Regards,
> > 
> > 	Manoj
> > 
> > 	 
> > 
> > 	
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