[cisco-voip] [Semi-OT] E911 and legal issues

[Netfortius]

Thanks again! I am going over those things right now ... soon enough Cisco 
will have to come up with a new certification, geared toward their E911: CCLC 
(Cisco Certified Legal Counseler) ;)

Stefan

On Thursday 31 August 2006 21:18, you wrote:
> Sorry for posting again but here is a small excerpt link from that page:
>
> http://redskye911.com/e911_center/legislation_policy/
>
> More specifically for your area:
>
> " Illinois Private Residential and Business Switch Service Requirements
> vary based on residential vs. business and square footage. Generally, a
> distinct location needs to be provided per 40,000 ft2 or each entity
> sharing a building."
>
>
> I don't believe anything has been decided on at the federal level yet. From
> what I understand they made a generic proposal and expected the states to
> run with it but this has not been widespread yet so I think they are making
> a more comprehensive one. Anyone please feel free to correct me if I am
> wrong, I am far from a master with this. I have just started to have to
> look at this to for an ITSP I am helping get established and this is what I
> have found thus far.
>
> Curt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Netfortius
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:06 PM
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [Semi-OT] E911 and legal issues
>
> Wow - fast and great pointers - thank you, Curt! While I will definitely
> save
> your references, as I will probably need such very soon, I now realized,
> though, that I was completely confusing in my request: I was interested in
> the legal aspects (e.g. are there such laws forcing an E911 deployment to
> really call the 911 Services, vs. allowing old routing to inside teams,
> etc.), not techn[olog]ical implementations.
>
> So - is there anyone knowledgeable of the legal aspects related to
> implementation of E911 solutions like Cisco's one, in regards to state and
> perhaps local/regional areas? Is there a federal law or are there any
> guidlines for such deployments?
>
> Thanks,
> Stefan
>
> On Thursday 31 August 2006 20:55, you wrote:
> > I would recommend looking at Intrado http://www.intrado.com/main/home/
>
> and
>
> > Red Sky http://redskye911.com/. I have not personally used Red Sky but
>
> they
>
> > are doing what you are talking about. They are working on even a softest
> > where if you are in a hotel in Florida today, a remote office in
>
> California
>
> > tomorrow and back in your home office in Washington DC the next day and
> > dial 911 from that phone it will route to the right PSAP. Looks
>
> interesting
>
> > and promising, their focus is nomadic phones. I have heard of some
> > scenarios where places like colleges had a function where the onsite
> > security was alerted when 911 was dialed and what room, floor etc as well
> > as passing it to the PSAP but nothing of having to do that.
> >
> > HTH get you started.
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Netfortius
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:48 PM
> > To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: [cisco-voip] [Semi-OT] E911 and legal issues
> >
> > Sorry for the off-topic, but google-ing around didn't reveal much to me,
>
> so
>
> > here it goes: has any one of the members of this list implemented an E911
> > solution? I have a client who needs this installed, but we do not know if
> > the
> > configuration has to be related to legal aspects in the state/county/town
> > the
> > company resides in. Here is what I am referring to:
> >
> > - under the old, analog system, the methodology of calling 911 had the
> > number
> > actually routed to an emergency crew, properly trained in CPR and other
> > first
> > emergency responder methods, who would then decide if the call had to
> > really
> >
> > go to 911. One of the big advantages of this method was also the fact
> > that the internal crew had full knowledge of the location of each person,
> > to
>
> the
>
> > cube and office level
> >
> > - someone I was discussing this issue with said to me that the above was
> > only
> > possible under very old laws, allowing such, and that the new laws
> > require 911 calls to be sent directly to the 911 services, and that the
> > location will
> > have to be passed on based on the information from a database my customer
> > will have to deliver (and maintain?!?) in coordination with the 911
> > folks, such that each phone will be identified in a specifc area of the
> > building, based on participation in a switch-port connection. To me this
> > sounds extreme, because one of the advnatages VoIP has been bringin to
> > the table was ... well ... mobility of phones (no matter where I plug
> > them, they register) - so how the heck are we going to be able to
> > continuously update the switch-port info?!?
> >
> > Any pointers will be highly appreciated - to narrow the scope I would be
> > mostly interested in USA - Illinois, but of course other states'
>
> deployment
>
> > experience will also be valuable.
> >
> > If you feel the above is totally off-topic, please accept my apologies,
>
> and
>
> > -
> > if anythiung useful to be added - please email me directly.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Stefan
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