[cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
Curt Shaffer
cshaffer at gmail.com
Wed Dec 6 15:00:27 EST 2006
OK well I put debugging on and automagically it seems to be working now.
Somehow I doubt that turning debug on fixes anything ;)
Thanks everyone!
Curt
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Loschiavo [mailto:VLoschiavo at data-corporation.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:24 PM
To: Curt Shaffer; Erick Bergquist
Cc: ciscovoip
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
Just to be sure it's not you....
Do a "debug isdn q931"
This will show the digits you are sending to the PSTN for caller and
calling party numbers.
Then make a call...and attach here.
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:14 PM
To: 'Erick Bergquist'
Cc: 'ciscovoip'
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
Something is telling me this is not my problem here. I added this dial
pattern and the phone provider (not the CO but another party in the mix)
say they are seeing a number 10400 being passed. This number is nowhere
in the CME config whatsoever. An interesting thing that I saw while show
call status is that on an inbound call it says the following:
CallID CID ccVdb Port DSP/Ch Called # Codec
Dial-peers
0x19F5 149B 0x4642A6EC 0/0/0:23.1 0/1:1 10400 g711ulaw
3/20063
0x19F6 149B 0x4692E924 50/0/37.0 *10400 g711ulaw
20063/3
That is an inbound call coming from their third party device here. I
find it interesting that this inbound callerid is the same thing they
are seeing on outbound caller id. It seems to me that this problem is in
their box. Here is the setup
PRI -> Thrid Company router -> CME. It is PRI from their router to the
CME as well.
Can anyone shed some light on this issue.
And I want to thank everyone sofar for the TONS of help you have been!
Curt
-----Original Message-----
From: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:09 AM
To: Curt Shaffer
Cc: ciscovoip
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
You just need the numbers in the command, not the dash.
Dialplan-pattern 1 703555.... extension-length 4 extension-pattern ....
As for the carrier, it depends on what they are looking for in the
number, if it is good to them or not, etc. 4 digit extensions on the
PSTN aren't really valid. I have seen carriers take anything for a
calling party number and others who reject them (ie: 4 digits, numbers
with # in them, etc). I have also seen where customer calls work fine
for a long time with 4 digit calling party number, etc (typical CCM
behavior with default settings where
4 digit extensions are used if nothing was done with caller id/calling
party
settings) then something changed in telco/carrier land and calls have
problems due to caller id issues that need correcting.
As a general rule of thumb, I find it good practice to use a valid 10
digit number for calling party # that is assigned to the customer. But
this may depend on carrier, etc.
In the end, this boils down to what your carrier is looking for as there
are no real rules and it depends on what they want to see or not see.
This also extends to other carriers the call routes through to get to
the destination, as your carrier may be fine with the caller id settings
but the carrier the number terminates at may not like it.
----- Original Message ----
From: Curt Shaffer <cshaffer at gmail.com>
To: Erick Bergquist <erickbe at yahoo.com>;
cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net;
cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:02:08 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
Thanks. So if I have this right it should be like this:
Numbers are 703-555-XXXX where the X are the extension numbers
Telephony-service
Dialplan-pattern 1 703-555.... extension-length 4 extension-pattern ....
So when extension 1234 dials out it will pass 703-555-1234 to the
provider?
Sorry for my inexperience with this but they did not have this trouble
with their old provider, I guess they took care of setting this. Can
anyone give me a reason their current provider couldn't do this as well
other than laziness?
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:23 AM
To: Curt Shaffer; cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net;
cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
There are a couple ways this can be done.
Under the telephony-service, you can use the dialplan-pattern command to
do this. An example would be 'dialplan-pattern 1 414555....
extension-length 4'.
You can also use translation profile/rule on the dial-peers to modify
the calling party number, or under the ISDN D Channel, you can hard set
the caller id also for all calls.
The forward-digits command, applies to the number called and how many
digits of that to send so doesn't effect the calling party number. For
example if you had forward-digits all on a dial-peer with
destination-pattern of 9T and you called 918005532447 it would send
918005532447 to PSTN or whereever dial-peer was sending call to. A
forward-digits of 10 would send 8005532447, forward-digits of 4 would
send 2447 and so forth.
HTH, Erick
-----Original Message-----
From: "Curt Shaffer" <cshaffer at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 05:49:29
To:<cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] forward-digits or caller-id
I am a bit confused. A new phone company for a client of mine is telling
them they need to pass 10 digits to them, where as now they are
apparently only passing 4, thus callerid to outside users is showing up
as only the last 4 digits. My question is, is this accomplished by
setting the caller-id = local on the ephone-dn or is this accomplished
by forward-digits 10 (or
all) on the dial peer for the 23 channels of the PRI?
Thanks
Curt
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