[cisco-voip] Fax Servers

[Ed Leatherman]

I wonder if a session on Fax solutions at CIPTUG this year would be useful?
Or just dealing with analog in general.

On 5/25/06, Voll, Scott <Scott.Voll at wesd.org> wrote:
>
> So what is the best solution for Faxing when you're in a VoIP
> environment?
>
> I really don't want to go back to H323 with 5 PRI's and half of my DID
> are on an old PBX and half are on VoIP(not contiguous).  Since CCM is in
> front, I just put in a Route pattern of XXXX and if it doesn't match a
> IPT DID it forwards on.  I don't want to setup literally 100's of DID's.
>
> ATA's work, but spotty at times.
>
> Fax servers sound like they have issues also.
>
> I have 5 different sites and almost all calls come in the main site so
> buying a VG is not cost affective either.
>
> Is everyone just spending money on POTS lines?
>
> Scott
>
> PS.  I have one or two Faxes at each location except the main site that
> has about 12.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davis, Michael [mailto:Michael_Davis at eLoyalty.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:15 PM
> To: Ortiz, Carlos; ciscovoip
> Cc: Voll, Scott
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Fax Servers
>
> I've been directly involved, from a service provider's standpoint,  with
> a large customer's Xmedius integration for the last several months.
> Here are a few issues with Xmedius.  YMMV.
>
> First, like most FaxoIP vendors, they only support T.38/14.4kbps.  This
> works great for G3 compression / throughput, since G3 is all that T.38
> supports. This will cover you ~90% of the time.  However, for that other
> 10% of fax calls, many fax machines built when SG3 standard was new,
> either fail to negotiate down or require operator intervention to do so.
> IOS, as of 12.3T/12.4mainline, as well as older AS5xxx gateways with
> DFCs try T.38, and fallback to passthrough mode on the assumption that
> the 33.6kbps call is a modem call.  You may find that you will need
> ingress gateways that force SG3 to negotiate G3 speeds. This enhanced
> functionality is available in platforms supporting PVDM2s and 12.4T code
> (I don't remember the specific rev., but CCO can hook you up.)
>
> Second, Passthrough and cisco-relay are not options for Xmedius. So if
> you are using VG248 or ATA devices as fax ingress points, they will not
> inter-operate with Xmedius.
>
> Third,  Xmedius H323 stack works well if you are doing peer-to-peer, ie
> single dial-peer for faxes on ingress and Xmedius points to a single
> egress gateway.  However, if you are leveraging gatekeepers,  you'll
> find that 1) you cannot specify a zone for registration. Xmedius will
> register as a terminal with the first zone configured in the gatekeeper
> CLI.  You can restrict this behavior with zone subnet statements, but
> that is a pain to maintain in a dynamic or service provider environment.
> 2) Inbound calls from ingress to Xmedius will not RAS properly.  Static
> aliases will be required.
>
> HTH,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net on behalf of Ortiz, Carlos
> Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 1:15 PM
> To: ciscovoip
> Cc: Voll, Scott
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Fax Servers
>
>
>
> When I was looking at them the two choices I was looking at were
> RightFax (Cisco OEM's this) and Xmedius.  I liked Xmedius because it is
> a software only solution using your existing IP gateways (h.323).   I
> tested it and it worked well, but we still have not implemented anything
> because the project we needed it for fell through.
>
>
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:58 PM
> To: ciscovoip
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Fax Servers
>
>
>
> What kind of price range am I look at for a Fax server that ties in with
> CM?  what are the best out there.  I have big xerox's that can do
> scanning so I would like to tie it all together.
>
>
>
> Can I use Unity as a fax server?  How does that work?
>
>
>
> Scott
>
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Ed Leatherman
IP Telephony Coordinator
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations
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