[cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

Mon May 7 12:23:02 EDT 2007

So from where did u got the DLUs, did you bought DLUs for the system or what??

Thanks and Best Regards

Ahmed A. Elnagar
Network Field Engineer

Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt 
Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

Mob: +2010-2833868
Website: www.act-eg.com
E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net on behalf of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Mon 07-May-07 6:58 PM
To: Matt Slaga (US)
Cc: cbomba at s4nets.com; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

This is NOT true.

I just did an upgrade (3.3 to 5.1)... and we built a new server with CCM3.3, restored the backup (in a lab, no phones present), upgraded to 4.1, ran DMA and upgraded to 5.1 and restored the DMA data. 

The license was for all of the phones configured (zero phones were registered at the time DMA was run), and the customer had a full upgrade license for all configured phones.

Jonathan

On 5/7/07, Matt Slaga (US) <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com> wrote: 

	Actually, this is not the case.  It will only generate DLUs for phones
	that are registered with the CallManager server.  It will skip any
	device that is not registered and not count it in the DLU list.

	-----Original Message-----
	From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
	[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Christopher M.
	Bomba
	Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:05 AM
	To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
	Subject: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

	Who said you had to buy the phones.  You can just put phones in with
	bogus MAC addresses and it will generate DLUs for those.  I thought they
	had to be registered but turns out that they just have to be present in 
	the system.  You can create IP communicators or any other phone to boost
	the DLUs.  That is a big problem since anybody can do this.

	Chris

	--original message--

	thanks Ed for your reply, yes you are right I contacted Partner help and 
	they told me that during the upgrade a file will be generated that when
	given to cisco they will give us back the DLUs equivalent to what
	configured on the system. I think this is an illegal workaround for the
	lic. issue as by that someone could buy phones without lic. and then
	setup them with CM 4.1 and then upgrade and he will be having a DLUs for
	free. I think Cisco has to do something to solve this.

	Thanks and Best Regards 

	Ahmed A. Elnagar
	Network Field Engineer

	Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
	16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin, Giza, Egypt
	Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

	Mob: +2010-2833868
	Website: www.act-eg.com <http://www.act-eg.com/> 
	E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

	________________________________

	From: Ed Leatherman [mailto: ealeatherman at gmail.com <mailto:ealeatherman at gmail.com> ]
	Sent: Wed 02-May-07 3:16 PM
	To: Ahmed Elnagar
	Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
	Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Callmanager upgrade 4.1 >>> 5.1

	hi Ahmed,

	When you upgrade, callmanager will generate a temporary license for all
	the devices you have configured from 4.1. If I understand correctly, you
	just have to send that off to cisco's licensing group and have it 
	converted to a real 5.2 license with the appropriate number of DLUs. If
	its anything like Unity licensing, the turn-around is pretty quick. I'm
	assuming you need a SASU agreement for callmanager for them to do it. 

	We are getting ready to do the same process here this summer with our
	4.1 system.

	Hope that helps.

	Ed

	On 5/2/07, Ahmed Elnagar <aelnagar at act-eg.com > wrote:

	        Hello all;

	        A customer wants to upgrade from CM 4.1 to 5.1, what I am
	worried about is the licsences issue. How will I get the DLUs for
	callmanager 5.1 we have a lic. with each phone but how we will get the 
	DLUs??

	        Thanks and Best Regards

	        Ahmed A. Elnagar
	        Network Field Engineer

	        Advanced Computer Technology (ACT)
	        16 Fawzy Ramah St.Off Shehab St.Mohandessin , Giza, Egypt
	        Postal Code:12411 Cairo Egypt

	        Mob : +2010-2833868
	        Website: www.act-eg.com <http://www.act-eg.com/>  <http://www.act-eg.com/ >
	        E-mail: aelnagar at act-eg.com

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	Ed Leatherman
	Senior Voice Engineer 
	West Virginia University
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