[cisco-voip] ccm-mananger config - getting along without it

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Oh. How do I know what commands require equivelant IOS statements? There's quite a bit on the gateway config page and I don't see anything remotely close to IOS statements. 
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ryan Ratliff 
  To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi' ; 'Fred Nielsen' 
  Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] ccm-mananger config - getting along without it


  No it won't download any configs at all.  The assumption is that anything you change in CCM that needs an IOS command on the router you will do by hand.

  -Ryan 





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  From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:19 AM
  To: Ryan Ratliff; 'Fred Nielsen'
  Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
  Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ccm-mananger config - getting along without it


  Oh - so I still have configuration control from CallManager? All I have to do is the  "no mgcp/mgcp" and it downloads the new configs?

  That would be great.

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  Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
  Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
  (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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  ...there's no such thing as a bad timbit...

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ryan Ratliff 
    To: 'Fred Nielsen' ; 'Lelio Fulgenzi' 
    Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
    Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:52 AM
    Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] ccm-mananger config - getting along without it


    The main thing you lose is the ability to reset the gateway via the CCMAdmin web page.  This means that after any config changes on the CM side you have to do a 'no mgcp' 'mgcp'.

    -Ryan 




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    From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Fred Nielsen
    Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:45 PM
    To: Lelio Fulgenzi
    Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
    Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ccm-mananger config - getting along without it


    I realize this is not all the information you are looking for... but I never use that command - even during initial configuration.  I do not like the some of the changes it tends to apply to router configs, I prefer to be more explicit and know what I am configuring.  The only caveat I do not like is that to reset an ISDN interface (truly, meaning drop the D-channel and reestablish) you have to either "no mgcp" the router or shut/unshut the interface.  When you have the ccm-manager config command in you can do this via Reset from CM. 

    On the flip side, there are a number of customers who benefit from this approach (i.e. telecom admins who want nothing to do with IOS)... but being an IOS guy I still dislike it.

    -Fred Nielsen

    On 5/14/07, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
      It looks like the "ccm-manager config" statement is overwriting my trunk group assignment under the controller T1 interface, soooooooo, it looks like I have to give it up for the manual approach. 

      Can anyone comment on what I lose and how I get it back with going with the manual configs? I know that I can issue the ccm-manager config statement and then just remove it and things work, but as I go forward, what should I look out for? 

      When I look at the xml file on the tftp server, there is quite a bit of information there that I don't see in the config anywhere.

      Comments? Pointers to documentation?

      Thanks, Lelio

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      Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
      Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
      (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
      ...there's no such thing as a bad timbit...



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