[cisco-voip] Problem wth freeSSHd SFTP backups on CCM 6.0

[Jonathan Charles]

I agree.

However, in all likelihood when CCM 7 comes out, you will be forced to
use SFTP too....



Jonathan

On Nov 26, 2007 1:17 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know why you just move to the Windows version. My copy of BARS
> is backing up like a champ.
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 11:53 AM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Fine, then recommend using SFTP...
> >
> > But support FTP.
> >
> > Every other Cisco device can be configured to exist in any environment
> > it finds itself.
> >
> > You have a router and want it secure? Cool. Don't? Cool too.
> >
> > Personally, I cannot tell a customer that is exclusively Windows to
> > buy a Linux box, and the idea that I should force them to is a great
> > way to kill a sale and drive that customer to Avaya.
> >
> > Cisco should understand that their equipment will exist in a variety
> > of environments, and some of them (probably most) are all Windows.
> >
> > So, Cisco should either provide an SFTP client that they will support
> > (and warrant) or they should support FTP.
> >
> > Simple.
> >
> > The fact that Cisco refuses to consider their customers is a sure sign
> > that they are on their way out. Because right now the customer base
> > that is complaining about this is around 80%... and the worst part is
> > that most of their backups are failing and they have no idea... Will
> > Cisco pay for that rebuild from scratch? I think not.
> >
> > It is surprising that Cisco is so anal about this... The big draw to
> > Cisco is that you can customize to fit any environment and any
> > security level... now you cannot.
> >
> > Cisco needs to realize that some environments are NOT the DoD and do
> > not require high levels of security on their phone system backups
> > (some customers are pissed that they are forced to enter a complex
> > password, no such requirement exists on any router or switch or even
> > ASA...)
> >
> > So, the customers want it, the partners want their customers happy,
> > and the engineers want something that will work... and the SFTP
> > offerings available are not working.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > On Nov 26, 2007 9:11 AM, Jerky <lists at jerkys.org> wrote:
> > > > > I agree Cisco should have thought about it a bit more when deciding to
> > > > > force the more secure sftp/scp protocols since there aren't many(or
> > > > > maybe even any) solid choices for an sftp service on windows.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but Cisco's "other" business is not just networks, but *secure*
> > > networks. Using a backup protocol that shows your CallManager's admin
> > > password in clear text is a huge step backwards and I wouldn't want the
> > > liability, either.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
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