[cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
Jonathan Charles
jonvoip at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 12:23:03 EDT 2007
The Cisco OS patches are not just for security... some of them are to
resolve issues with the OS, web server and other key services that CCM
uses.
For example, Daylight Savings Time requires OS patching...
I wouldn't be so quick to not apply patches... though I would
definitely wait for 3 weeks or so after Cisco releases a patch to
ensure it doesn't blow up your system (if it still on Cisco's site 3
weeks after, in all likelihood, it is a stable patch).
Jonathan
On 10/19/07, Johnson, Ken <kenjohnson at letu.edu> wrote:
> Hm - that's interesting, I might look at those timing settings.
>
> Not only do we not apply MS patches, we don't actually apply individual
> Cisco OS patches to the CM's anymore - we only apply the Cisco OS
> service packs. Keeping up with the individual Cisco OS patches got to
> where it didn't seem worth the effort - especially for a CM environment
> that is 100% isolated from anything but the phones and 3 management
> stations :-)
>
> So if I hadn't had this problem through a number of OS service packs I
> might think it was the lack of an individual Cisco patch I hadn't
> applied, but since it continued after the most recent OS service packs I
> expect not. I'll probably be content to wait for our 6.0 upgrade :-)
>
> Ken Johnson
> Mgr. Network Services,
> Information Technology
> LeTourneau University
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbee at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:51 PM
> To: Johnson, Ken
> Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi; Jonathan Charles; Ogden, Brandon;
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
>
> The service recovery option will recover if the service was started,
> but if it doesn't start on boot then that is not going to kick in
> since it was never started and running yet.
>
> I've seen the ccm service not start on reboots when people have
> applied M$ patches to the server directly instead of the Cisco OS
> patches from cisco.com. I haven't seen the service not start since 3.3
> days due to timeouts or initialization timers being to short. You may
> want to check under call manager service parameters and see if all the
> Initialization timers are set to at least the suggested value. I had
> one place a long time ago update from 3.x something to 4.0x and it
> kept the older 3.x settings which was less then the suggested timer
> value for 4.x so that caused the ccm service not to start. Once the
> timer was set to the suggested value for 4.x the service starts fine
> on reboots.
>
>
> On 10/18/07, Johnson, Ken <kenjohnson at letu.edu> wrote:
> > Actually we've had this problem sporadically with our subscriber since
> > some 4.2(X) patch with the CCM service not consistently starting on
> > bootup (even with the service recovery processes set). It always
> starts
> > okay manually once the monitor emails remind us of the issue - and it
> > never affects the publisher, nor does it affect any other service or
> > write anything useful in the error log.
> >
> > Since it never fails while running, only fails to come up with a
> reboot
> > or other CCM restart which almost never happens - even though TAC
> could
> > certainly fix it for us, we ignored it and focused on more pressing
> > cases figuring it would be a non-issue with the wipe-and-reload CM6.0
> > process....
> >
> > Ken Johnson
> > Mgr. Network Services,
> > Information Technology
> > LeTourneau University
> > _________________________________
> > E-mail: kenjohnson at letu.edu
> > Helpdesk: (903) 233-3500
> > Phone: (903) 233-3520
> > Web: http://www.letu.edu/infotech/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:19 PM
> > To: Jonathan Charles
> > Cc: Ogden, Brandon; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
> >
> > gotta love the consistency... ;)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>
> > To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> > Cc: "Ogden, Brandon" <Brandon.Ogden at amersports.com>;
> > <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
> >
> >
> > > It depends
> > >
> > > I have seen the service take forever on 100 patterns and start
> > > immediately on 1000 patterns...
> > >
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > On 10/18/07, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> > >> what's "a large number of route patterns" ?
> > >>
> > >> 100? 1,000? 10,000?
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "Ogden, Brandon" <Brandon.Ogden at amersports.com>
> > >> Cc: <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:14 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > If you have a large number of route patterns the CCM service can
> > >> > time out when starting
> > >> >
> > >> > There is a service parameter to increase the timeout, but I
> forgot
> > >> > what it was...
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Jonathan
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10/18/07, Ogden, Brandon <Brandon.Ogden at amersports.com> wrote:
> > >> >> LOL.. I got it resolved.. Didn't have to reboot.. and before you
> > >> >> say so.. yes I am an idiot.. LOL The Call Manager Service had
> not
> >
> > >> >> started for some reason.. I restarted the service and it popped
> > >> >> right up, all is well now. Thanks all!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Brandon
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > >> >> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ogden,
> > >> >> Brandon
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:18 AM
> > >> >> To: Jonathan Charles
> > >> >> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I did not do a reboot of the publisher, just the sub.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Brandon Ogden
> > >> >> Amer Sports
> > >> >> 801-624-7529
> > >> >> www.amersports.com
> > >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonogden
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:14 AM
> > >> >> To: Ogden, Brandon
> > >> >> Cc: Scott Voll; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Did you reboot the cluster after the rebuild?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jonathan
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 10/18/07, Ogden, Brandon <Brandon.Ogden at amersports.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I just went in and looked at that and my subscriber is not
> > >> >> > showing up
> > >> >> as an
> > >> >> > available server in the Call Manager Group. Any ideas? It
> > >> >> > appears to
> > >> >> have
> > >> >> > replicated correctly, and I was able to use it to modify a
> > >> >> > Directory
> > >> >> Number.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Brandon
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ________________________________
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > From: Scott Voll [mailto:svoll.voip at gmail.com]
> > >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:54 AM
> > >> >> > To: Ogden, Brandon
> > >> >> > Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Registration to Subscriber
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > did you change the order of your servers so it registers with
> > >> >> > the sub?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Scott
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On 10/18/07, Ogden, Brandon <Brandon.Ogden at amersports.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I rebuilt my subscriber box last night, it seemed to go well.
> I
> >
> > >> >> > was wondering how long it should take for the phones to
> register
> >
> > >> >> > with the Subscriber rather than the pub. As of this morning,
> > >> >> > they are still registered with the pub. Thanks!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Brandon
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
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> > >> >> >
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