[cisco-voip] Moving / Upgrading 4.1(3) to CallManager 6.0 ?

CarlosOrtiz at bayviewfinancial.com CarlosOrtiz at bayviewfinancial.com
Wed Jan 30 16:01:28 EST 2008


I think so many versions have been being created because of a few factors. 
 One , Cisco pushed hard to get companies to move to IPT Telephony early 
on.  There were some early adopters but there are still many companies 
just starting to move towards UC.   While making upgrades available to the 
early adopters with version upgrades, etc and also contiuing to grow the 
customer base thay also had to increase the feature set , move to a more 
reliable OS (Linux) and satisfy the cries from users for standards based 
architecture(SIP), etc.

The point is that you have to make a decision based on your organizations 
needs and wants.  If 4.1.3 is working for you and you can wait for other 
features down the road so be it.  This may also be dictated by company 
size and the perceived difficulty of the upgrade.  Some smaller companies 
may be able to do these upgrades every year and virtually have no impact.  


I wish that it was easier myself but I assume many of these versions are 
spawned because users are looking for certain features that require an 
upgrade but that in turn prevents them from doing something else you 
wanted to. (e.g You an upgrade from 4.1.3 -> 6 but not 4.2.x -> 6). 

Anyway, hopefully these upgrades will become a bit easier down the road.

Carlos






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[cisco-voip] Moving / Upgrading 4.1(3) to CallManager 6.0 ?






Starting to 'look' at what all is involved with moving or upgrading to CM 
6.0.  Currently running CM 4.1(3) on two older MCS servers, just a 
publisher and subscriber.  If the budget allows I am hoping to actually 
purchase new hardware for this and possibly run both versions in parrallel 
for testing and what not.
 
Couple of things though I am concerned with is that I seem to recall 
hearing something about licensing on 6.0 for phones?  Apparently Cisco has 
introduced some new licensing stuff with 6.0 that reminded me of unity 
licensing in a way.
 
I suspect that by moving to 6.0 I would also have to look into Unity and 
IPCCX compatibility issues and the best way to address dealing with all 
things at once.  If CM 6.0 requires IPCCX 6.0 and Unity ? well thats a 
pretty big deal and really makes upgrading a huge pain in the arse 
obviously.  Its often difficult enough to upgrade one thing and deal with 
those repercussions for a while, but to have to do all together well thats 
just gonna suck.  :-)
 
To me upgrading to 6.0 is really not something I believe is worthwhile as 
I don't see what we are really going to gain from it.  However I am a tad 
concerned about letting things age you know, both hardware and software. I 
do see some possible benefits and features in some of the newer versions 
of either IPCCX and Unity, but those typically say you need your 
CallManager to be a new version.  So as long as I stay humming along with 
4.x, which in itself may be sufficient I can't leverage some new feature I 
see available in one of the other products.
 
And finally I guess I would have to ask does anyone know the latest news 
on 7.0 ?  I have heard and read about release dates in early 2009, but 
obviously nothing is concrete of course.  It does however leave the person 
like me wondering what to do of course.  Even if I were to dedicate myself 
to saying yes I am going to move to 6.0 this year, well it would like not 
happen to Q3 or Q4 at which time we may very well be hearing about actual 
7.0 release dates being only months away.
 
Its sad that things have become what they are if you ask me.  So many 
versions in so a relatively short time.  Whats worst is the people on the 
fringes of things, the people who happen to hear about this release or 
that and so they question why we are "so far behind" on our callmanager 
versions, or who hear about an upcoming callmanager release and wonder 
when will we move to this or that.  Its gotten to be about as bad as 
trying to keep up with Windows versions almost.  Never thought the phone 
system would become like this.  Is it the price you pay for innovation? 
And is there really all that much innovation to warrant it?  Who knows..
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