[cisco-voip] HP Switches

[Voice Noob]

So there are two network cables going from your distribution closet to your
desk. One cable to the phone and one cable to the PC? I want to run one
cable, have the phone on the voice network and PC on the data network. If I
have to configure the VLAN manually that is fine I just want to know if it
will work this way.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu> wrote:

> Note I said logically separated not physically separated.  Yes you run a
> cable to your PC and a cable to your phone.  You can do the logical
> separation at the switch (configure port-based VLANs) or further downstream
> if you want a whole switch of just phones and another whole switch of just
> PCs... etc.  We do not run separate core networks. Disadvantages?... if we
> want to connect from pc to the voice network it's routed (but this is to our
> advantage because then we have the ability to set up access lists at the
> router level).  We can't use VT Advantage (not a concern) and we miss out on
> some silly click-to-dial stuff that no one in our organization seems to care
> much about.  Rather, they want a rock-solid phone system and that's what
> they get.
>
> I guess the definition of "converged network" is different for everyone
> though.
>
> Voice Noob wrote:
>
>> Bill I don't think you situation is comparable to most. You are not using
>> a converged network which is one of the big reasons to go with an IPT
>> system. You have two physical networks one for voice and one for data.
>>  I want to have one physical and two logical networks like I can with
>> Cisco phones and Cisco switches. The phone boots up and changes to the voice
>> vlan and the phones are on the data vlan. I don't care to tell the customer
>> that they must manually configure this but can they still use DHCP for all
>> of the IP info and just manually set the voice vlan?
>> ALso if I do this how do I set it up on the HP switch side? Is it a trunk
>> or an access port with two vlans?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu <mailto:
>> bills at psu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>    We use (have used but are phasing out) HP Procurve on the voice
>>    network.  No problem.  But note:  we have a logically-separated
>>    voice network, do not use the phone's PC port (thus no need for
>>    VLAN) and have had to deal with power insertion because our HP
>>    switches are not powered.
>>
>>    CDP is not needed.  I don't understand what you mean about hard-code
>>    the configuration.  DHCP provides the options the phone needs to
>>    contact Call Manager.
>>
>>    I was watching the other thread about Adtran and some of the stuff
>>    people said seems quite like FUD.  Cisco appreciates this
>>    scare-tactic marketing but the truth is that you can use any LAN
>>    switch.  Using Cisco gear will make your life easier though.
>>
>
>
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