[cisco-voip] FYI: VMware ESXi is now free

[Jonathan Charles]

No, the big draw is that you consolidate your hardware... it just
means you need to replace individual low-end servers with one or two
giant honking monsters...

It also makes your server room colder.


Jonathan

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Michael Thompson
<mthompson729 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought the big draw of ESX is light weight and manageability for server
> clusters.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:45 PM
> To: Carter, Bill
> Cc: Michael Thompson; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net;
> ccie_voice at onlinestudylist.com
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FYI: VMware ESXi is now free
>
> You can get a DL 380 G3 for like $300 on ebay
>
> Just a word to the wise, ESX is not a lightweight application... it
> needs an insane amount of memory (32 or 64GB is a good start) and LOTS
> of processing space... I tried it on a DL380 G3 with 8GB of RAM and
> dual 2.4Ghz Xeons and it could barely run a single CCM 4.1 VM (and it
> was crawling... phones would take 30-45 seconds to get dial tone when
> they went offhook).
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> Jonathan
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Carter, Bill <bcarter at sentinel.com> wrote:
>> ESXi installation just bombed on a MCS-7815i-3.0. The IBM X306 server is
>> not in the hardware compatibility list.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:39 AM
>> To: Michael Thompson
>> Cc: Carter, Bill; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net;
>> ccie_voice at onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FYI: VMware ESXi is now free
>>
>> Yeah, that won't work, ESX is very hardware specific
>>
>> Just a side note, because I see this misunderstanding a lot.
>>
>> On a 32-bit OS, you have a 32-bit memory address space, which equates
>> to roughly 4 billion address locations (about 4GB of RAM supported),
>> however, Windows allocates a nice sized chunk to I/O and other
>> stuff...
>>
>> If you want to recognize more than about 3.5GB, you need to run a
>> 64-bit OS (I am running 64-bit Vista with no problems (except the
>> silly CIsco VPN client doesn't work)...
>>
>>
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>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Michael Thompson
>> <mthompson729 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I just meant as a platform to install the VMWare on.
>>>
>>> I have VMServer (free version) running on Server 2008.  I'm running 08
>>> because I have 4Gb or RAM and XP wasn't acknowledging all my memory
>> (which
>>> kinda pissed me off a LOT).
>>>
>>> My thought is to install Linux as a base OS (less overhead resources
>> meaning
>>> more available for my VMWare).  Not to mention, Vista and 2008 don't
>> like
>>> NVidia chipset MoBo hardware.  They're intel bigots.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:31 PM
>>> To: Michael Thompson
>>> Cc: Carter, Bill; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net;
>> ccie_voice at onlinestudylist.com
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FYI: VMware ESXi is now free
>>>
>>> You don't need to know Linux...
>>>
>>> The installation is quite easy... just next a lot (add IPs and
>>> stuff...) and then after it completes it will tell you to open a web
>>> browser and then install the infrastructure 3 client.then you can do
>>> VMWare stuff...
>>>
>>> Personally, I think Workstation is more suitable for our needs (I am
>>> running Workstation 6) and I have CCM 4.1/IPCC a Unity 4 box, a CUCM
>>> 6.1 box and Unity 7 box, plus an XP VM for stuff...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Michael Thompson
>>> <mthompson729 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bummer, I was hoping that they relaxed that a little so I could get
>> rid of
>>>> the Microsoft overhead of my server.
>>>>
>>>> Don't know enough about Linux to install on that.  May have to learn
>>> Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:08 PM
>>>> To: Michael Thompson
>>>> Cc: Carter, Bill; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net;
>>> ccie_voice at onlinestudylist.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FYI: VMware ESXi is now free
>>>>
>>>> you need a server from the hardware compatibility list...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Michael Thompson
>>>> <mthompson729 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Has  anyone played with installing it on generic hardware though?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem with ESX is that I tried to install it on my commercial
>> NVidia
>>>>> chipset based MoBo and it bombed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> MT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>>>>> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Carter,
>> Bill
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:42 AM
>>>>> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; ccie_voice at onlinestudylist.com
>>>>> Subject: [cisco-voip] FYI: VMware ESXi is now free
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.vmware.com/download/esxi/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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