[cisco-voip] CCM fantasy request list...

[Jonathan Charles]

What I question is why my security policy should be dictated by anyone else.

And we sell Cisco to large and small because they like the product and
the single vendor solution (not having to call 9 different vendors to
troubleshoot a problem is a good thing).




Jonathan

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> wrote:
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Robert <rsingleton at morsco.com> wrote:
>  > On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 13:45 -0500, Voice Noob wrote:
>  >
>  >  > So you would choose to use less security and send your data
>  >  > unencrypted over the network when an ecrypted option is availible?
>  >  > Seems like a poor choice on your part.
>  >
>  >  On my private network? Why should I complicate a backup solution that
>  >  works just because someone else wants to send theirs securely over
>  >  insecure facilities? Absolutely, they should be able to use SFTP if they
>  >  want it, the same as I should not have to if I don't.
>
>  What I question is why you really want to keep using an unencrypted
>  protocol like FTP if you don't have to.  I'm even starting to turn off
>  telnet access to my routers and switches and 99.9% of the time I'm
>  accessing them from a system inside my network.
>
>
>  >  > You have two different sets of criteria and you expect the product to
>  >  > do everything? If you want the small office functionality use express
>  >  > and integrate it via H.323 to your larger UCCM sites.
>  >
>  >  What I really have is one set of criteria that I want to scale up to my
>  >  enterprise. Why should I have to implement small systems in nearly 80
>  >  locations and integrate them all when adding a reasonable feature to
>  >  CallManger would be far more effective?
>
>  Define what you mean by "reasonable".  Then realize the only criteria
>  that matters to Cisco is the number of sales that Cisco would gain (or
>  not lose) by adding your feature.  I can buy a Nortel 3x8 KSU for
>  $500:
>
>  http://norstarforless.stores.yahoo.net/noco3x8phsyw.html
>
>  And phones are between $60 and $150:
>
>  http://norstarforless.stores.yahoo.net/nonom7sete.html
>
>  I haven't priced out a CCM solution (we're a big enough shop that
>  other people worry about that) but I really doubt that you could get
>  an equivalent CCM system for the kind of money we're talking here.  It
>  seems to me that the only way you could justify using Cisco VoIP kit
>  in a small office is if they are linked to a larger enterprise that
>  can spread the costs of the telephony system among a much larger base
>  of users.  It would seem to me in a situation like that key
>  system-like functionality isn't an important selling point.
>
>  Jeff
>
>
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