[cisco-voip] CCM fantasy request list...

Fri May 9 07:50:17 EDT 2008

Yeah I could do without the paper-inlays... BUT if you have ever worked
in a doctor's office.. I think this phone will definitely hit a sweet
spot.... They usually want to see line status of everyone in the office
and each of their main lines roll one to another. The cost for a 7961 +
sidecar is a bit high for these office that are very tight with their
$$$. The 7931 is definitely not in the same class from a technology
perspective as the 794x, 794x, and 797x phones, but I think ultimately
it is a niche market device. 

Dennis Heim
Network Voice Engineer
Berbee
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
Carmel, IN  46032

317.569.4255 Office
317.569.4201 Fax
317.694.6070 Cell

dennis.heim at cdw.com
www.berbee.com <http://www.berbee.com/> 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Frazee, Timothy
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:59 PM
To: Justin Steinberg; Jonathan Charles
Cc: CiscosupportUpuck
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM fantasy request list...

You don't need a 7931 to "emulate" a key system. Looks better with a
796x with a 7914.

Paper inlays? Come on....

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Justin
Steinberg
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:04 PM
To: Jonathan Charles
Cc: CiscosupportUpuck
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCM fantasy request list...

7931 phone does a good job of emulating a key system.  

check out my cool youtube video!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lh72TwOe0mM

Also, for outbound calls, check out the service parameter
'matchingcgpnwithattendantflag'.  I've not actually used this parameter
before, but it's been something I've wanted to try. I think this
parameter is still in current versions of CM.  anybody tried it before?

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com>
wrote:

I am willing to bet that most (if not all) the people on this board
have thrown their lot in with Cisco. We want Cisco to succeed because
their success and ours are tied, inextricably, together.

To that end, we want Cisco's products to be the best they can be. We
never want a customer to say to us, 'your kidding, I have to give up
core feature X if I get this system???' or worse, have to buy more
hardware to do it.

I want to be in a position to never have to say, 'no that isn't
supported in the new system...' and I have a LOT of customers with
giant sites that need full-scale giant PBX features, and remote sites
that need key system functionality. The goal here is to unify the
entire enterprise voice system, which means I need to support both
large-scale and small-scale deployments on the same system.

And we do that.

But if I have a customer that wants to page through the phone (cuz
they have that feature on their legacy PBX), and they have a bunch of
remote sites, they do NOT want to have to buy 30 or 40 servers to
support that feature... It is silly to even tell them that that is
what they would need to do. It also sends the sale straight to Avaya
or Nortel.

Jonathan

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Ed Leatherman <ealeatherman at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I respectfully disagree..
>
> When Cisco started out in this arena with the call manager product it
was
> lacking many features that traditional PBX's had for years, it still
is but
> getting much better because they're constantly adding features. They
can't
> just throw up their collective hands and say a particular feature
isn't
> valid, go buy another product. Now, there might be a business case or
> technical reason why or why not to include something, but thats a
different
> story.
>
> I have a ton (literally) of traditional PBX and hybrid systems on
campus
> right now that
> A) Have zone paging
> B) Can configure key system buttons
>
> I don't expect CCM to do everything, but putting in feature requests
etc
> certainly doesn't hurt.
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Lines:
> > UCCM is not a key system so don't complain about it not working like
one.
> If you need a key system put in express. This product needs to scale
to
> thousands and thousands of phones. Something a key system can not do.
> >
> > There are several products to accomplish paging. Again it is a PBX
system
> that must scale to a very high number of devices. You know it does not
do
> paging when you install it so if your customer needs that either put
in the
> correct system like express or if they want paging purchase the
correct
> third party product.
> >
>
>
> --
> Ed Leatherman
> Senior Voice Engineer
> West Virginia University
> Telecommunications and Network Operations

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