[cisco-voip] VG224 issue

Wed Apr 29 17:47:58 EDT 2009

I believe if you are using Contact ID, you won't have much luck with SCCP. You'll need to stick with MGCP or H323. I think someone on the list had better luck with H323. 

If you can move away from Contact ID to 4/2 (or 4+2 or whatever) you can use SCCP without too many issues. You lose the contact information, but you may not need it. 

I'd still go with SCCP for the bulk of things and you can then install another VG22x for your alarms. The 222 and 224 are out now so you can use those for smaller installations. 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melvin Fong" <mfong at PACIFIC.EDU> 
To: "Truelove_John" <JTruelove at aetinc.com>, "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>, "Scott Kee" <SKee at cmsstl.com>, "Chris Clouse" <Chris.Clouse at cdw.com>, "Paul" <asobihoudai at yahoo.com>, "STEVEN CASPER" <SCASPER at mtb.com>, "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:36:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

RE: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

Did you also experience trouble with modem? We are having issues with ones that connect for fire and burglar alarms using Contact ID format. 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Truelove_John 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:30 PM 
To: Matthew Loraditch; Scott Kee; Chris Clouse; Paul; STEVEN CASPER; Jonathan Charles; Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

I had similar issues with our VG224 to begin with like only receiving 1 page, 
not connecting to other fax machines, errors in trans/recv of fax. 

I had to do the following: 

run as pass through on VG224s 
disable ECM on all fax machines 
disable Super G3 on all fax machines 
Set trans/recv. rates to 14.4 or 9600 

On remote sites, make sure that they are using G711. 

Since I made these changes, we have not had any issues with our fax machines. 

We run in MGCP mode...no problems. 

Hope that helps. 
John 

-----Original Message----- 
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net on behalf of Matthew Loraditch 
Sent: Wed 4/29/2009 4:31 PM 
To: Scott Kee; 'Chris Clouse'; 'Paul'; STEVEN CASPER; Jonathan Charles; Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

If you can do it change to pass through, I have had massive issues with Rely and wherever I can I use passthrough and no issues 

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-----Original Message----- 
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [ mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Scott Kee 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:30 PM 
To: 'Chris Clouse'; 'Paul'; STEVEN CASPER; Jonathan Charles; Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

I am doing fax-relay 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Clouse [ mailto:Chris.Clouse at cdw.com ] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:29 PM 
To: Scott Kee; 'Paul'; STEVEN CASPER; Jonathan Charles; Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

Are you guys doing fax-relay or fax-passthrough? 

~Chris 

-----Original Message----- 
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [ mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net ] On Behalf Of Scott Kee 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:20 PM 
To: 'Paul'; STEVEN CASPER; Jonathan Charles; Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

How about H323? 
I am just having too many issues with MGCP with the fax machines. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul [ mailto:asobihoudai at yahoo.com ] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:41 PM 
To: STEVEN CASPER; Jonathan Charles; Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: Scott Kee; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4t/12_4t2/ht1vg224.html 

http://cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/fxs/configuration/guide/fxssccpsplmft.html 

These two documents should give you plenty of information on how to configure the FXS ports to be controlled via Skinny. 

________________________________ 
From: STEVEN CASPER <SCASPER at mtb.com> 
To: Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com>; Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 
Cc: Scott Kee <SKee at cmsstl.com>; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:10:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

All of our VG224s are MGCP and we have been experiencing a lot of fax pain lately ourselves. When we talked to TAC they told us that MGCP or SCCP makes no difference and that we should change all of our fax machines to not use Super G and to reduce the speed of the fax machines. In a company of our size this is just not going to work. 

I am considering changing to SCCP to give it a try. Could someone share a sanitized SCCP config for a VG224 and what advantages they think there are to using SCCP as opposed to MGCP? Other than it works better :) I am going to have to give a couple of technical reasons. 

Thanks 
Steve 

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>>> Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> 4/27/2009 1:27 PM >>> 

I third that opinion. I use SCCP and it was very easy to setup. I think SCCP debugs are also more helpful (I could be wrong there). 

That being said, we are using modem/fax passthrough and have downgraded our FAXes to 14.4/ECC off. 

--- 
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. 
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com> 
To: "Paul" <asobihoudai at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "Scott Kee" <SKee at cmsstl.com>, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:16:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 

Oh, wow, it is MGCP... I didn't even see that... 

Yeah, ditto, go with SCCP. 

J 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Paul <asobihoudai at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> Personally, I'd ditch the MGCP and use Skinny for the VG224. I've had a lot more luck and flexibility using Skinny. Make sure you update the IOS on the VG. 
> 
> Paul 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ---- 
> From: Scott Kee <SKee at cmsstl.com> 
> To: "cisco-voip at puck.nether.net" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:58:18 AM 
> Subject: [cisco-voip] VG224 issue 
> 
> 
> I have VG224 with CM 6.1 and using MGCP. I have about 18 fax machines plugged into this Voice Gateway. 
> Sometime early March people started complaining that they weren't receiving faxes from outside. 
> They were hearing fast busy signal when outside people send faxes to the fax machines that were plugged into the VG 224. 
> I reloaded VG 224 and power recycled fax machines but it did not make any difference. 
> I called Cisco TAC and worked on the issue for about 20 hours but did not find any issues. 
> We RMA the router but it did not make any difference. We ended up removing the VG224 gateway from CM and recreated it. That seemed fixed the issues then. 
> 
> This afternoon, I am seeing exact same issues with VG 224. It was working fine till now. 
> I did not make any configuration changes on the VG224... 
> I am going to call Cisco tomorrow morning but I don't know Cisco is going to do this time? 
> Is this CM issue or VG? 
> 
> Does anyone experience this issue? 
> 
> Any help would really appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks, 
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