[cisco-voip] Wacky telco issues... cannot call the UK

Tue Dec 1 00:25:33 EST 2009

There can always be something downstream from the provider causing
that issue - some switch in the UK perhaps?

The difference is going to be seen when you compare the isdn q931
debugs from the working and non-working case.  We see a number of
these problems - only 1800 numbers, only cell phone numbers, etc and
it's because of the provider's interconnect to other switches.

-nick

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
> Right, but why would it do it for JUST the UK?
>
> I mean, it doesn't do it for France or Belgium...
>
> And it isn't stripping the 011...
>
> And I have super, double-secret, uber-confirmed that it is an NI2...
>
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Nick Matthews <matthnick at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I believe there is something in the spec of some of the ISDN switch
>> types that dictates this change.  I believe the change is along the
>> lines of 'strip the 011 and put international in the plan or type', by
>> default.  This is an interop issue and can also be fixed sometimes by
>> changing the switch type.  Basically the router is trying to play
>> nicely in terms of interop, but sometimes the other vendor doesn't
>> like that.  You would have a problem either way, and this is just the
>> less likely scenario.  You can blame the ISDN people for that :)
>>
>> -nick
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> To be honest, I doubt it...
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Mike Taylor <mtaylor at employees.org> wrote:
>>>> Mate, I wish I could explain why.... All I know is, it does work...
>>>>
>>>> We had to add that to a dedicated Vodafone to get it to pass caller-id
>>>> correctly...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a Cisco person could explain how it works?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 1:30 p.m.
>>>> To: Mike Taylor
>>>> Cc: Mike Lydick; cisco-voip
>>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Wacky telco issues... cannot call the UK
>>>>
>>>> This fixed it... but why???
>>>>
>>>> How was it getting tagged ISDN International in the first place???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Mike Taylor <mtaylor at employees.org> wrote:
>>>>> Does this help?
>>>>>
>>>>> !
>>>>> interface Serial0/0/0:15
>>>>>  no ip address
>>>>>  encapsulation hdlc
>>>>>  isdn switch-type primary-net5
>>>>>  isdn overlap-receiving
>>>>>  isdn incoming-voice voice
>>>>>  isdn map address .* plan unknown type unknown      <-------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>>>>> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>>>>> Charles
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 12:59 p.m.
>>>>> To: Mike Lydick
>>>>> Cc: cisco-voip
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Wacky telco issues... cannot call the UK
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, it is an NI2... super duper confirmed...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mike Lydick <mike.lydick at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I was thinking the same. Also does the provider require Software
>>>>>> Select features? Mega-com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Lydick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you leave it international and strip the 011?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jonathan Charles
>>>>>>> <jonvoip at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, here's one that is stumping me...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CUCM 7.0, H.323 Gateways with 3 PRIs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can call all over Europe, Oceania, Asia... but not the UK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Calls go out:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ch = primary-ni interface = User
>>>>>>>> Nov 30 17:07:21.704 CST: ISDN Se0/1/0:23 Q931: TX -> SETUP pd = 8
>>>>>>>> callref = 0x147B
>>>>>>>>        Bearer Capability i = 0x8090A2
>>>>>>>>                Standard = CCITT
>>>>>>>>                Transfer Capability = Speech
>>>>>>>>                Transfer Mode = Circuit
>>>>>>>>                Transfer Rate = 64 kbit/s
>>>>>>>>        Channel ID i = 0xA98397
>>>>>>>>                Exclusive, Channel 23
>>>>>>>>        Calling Party Number i = 0x2181, '8475552096'
>>>>>>>>                Plan:ISDN, Type:National
>>>>>>>>        Called Party Number i = 0x91, '011441787883195'
>>>>>>>>                Plan:ISDN, Type:International Nov 30 17:07:21.744
>>>>>>>> CST: ISDN Se0/1/0:23 Q931: RX <- CALL_PROC pd = 8 callref = 0x947B
>>>>>>>>        Channel ID i = 0xA98397
>>>>>>>>                Exclusive, Channel 23 MC003137# Nov 30 17:07:21.744
>>>>>>>> CST: ISDN Se0/1/0:23 Q931: RX <- PROGRESS pd = 8 callref = 0x947B
>>>>>>>>        Cause i = 0x829F - Normal, unspecified
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And fail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the Route Pattern, we are forcing plan and type to
>>>>>>>> unknown/unknown; telco came in and made these calls successfully
>>>>>>>> from the smartjacks; I have a dial peer invoking a translation profile:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>> voice translation-rule 2
>>>>>>>>  rule 1 // // type international unknown plan isdn unknown !
>>>>>>>> !voice translation-profile UK
>>>>>>>>  translate called 2
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>> dial-peer voice 60 pots
>>>>>>>>  translation-profile outgoing UK
>>>>>>>>  destination-pattern 01144T
>>>>>>>>  port 0/0/0:23
>>>>>>>>  prefix 01144
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are no transformation patterns on the system, there are no
>>>>>>>> translation patterns on the system; every other international call
>>>>>>>> succeeds without any issue (plan and type are unknown)...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas? I seriously have no idea where this plan and type are
>>>>>>>> coming from, or how to get rid of them...
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