[cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"

Wed Dec 2 16:49:26 EST 2009

EA = enterprise agreement, not enterprise license.  You only need a standard CAL to utilize the feature.  You do require a valid VLA  (volume license agreement) to complete the provisioning process.

From: VoiceNoob [mailto:voicenoob at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:39 PM
To: 'Matthew Loraditch'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'; Matt Slaga (US)
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"

True for standard license EA not required.

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"

Enterprise Agreement, I believe it is actually true as long as you have software assurance
http://www.microsoft.com/communicationsserver/en/us/public-im-connectivity.aspx

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"

Interesting...you mention no charge if you are EA licensed.....what's EA licensed?

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From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 3:45:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications        clients"
The cost is per month / per user, however last I checked it was like 26 cents per user for the Yahoo connection.  MSN, AOL and XMPP connections are no charge.  Most customers I have dealt with just didn’t connect to Yahoo.

From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:35 PM
To: Matt Slaga (US)
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"

Thanks everyone. I was asking generally, i.e. CUPS vs OCS, to gauge the availability of features. It's good to hear some level of federation is available.

I'll have to familiarize myself with what compatibility OCS has with a Cisco voice system.

With regards to the "monthly" fee - is this per user? per server? per institution? What are the costs like? Are we talking hundreds of dollars per month? thousands?

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
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From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga at us.didata.com>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "cisco-voip voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 2:15:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications        clients"
Microsoft OCS requires a minimum of 2 servers, one for internal core services, the other for edge services that is deployed in your perimeter network.

You can federate with MSN and AOL at no monthly charge (if you are EA licensed with Microsoft), Yahoo for a monthly charge.  They also have an XMPP gateway to connect to Jabber, Googletalk and other XMPP based systems.  This requires an additional server in the perimeter network (in addition to the edge server).

CUPS requires a physical server, no co-location yet.  CUPS provides XMPP connectivity, but requires ports open all the way through your perimeter network.

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:47 PM
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Subject: [cisco-voip] two questions about Cisco/Microsoft "communications clients"

Just trying to get my head around two questions, with Cisco or Microsoft's PC based clients:

 1.  do you need a separate server?
 2.  can you communicate with individuals outside of your organization, say other MSN clients?

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