[cisco-voip] CUPC without AD?

[Moataz Mamdouh]

I don't think that CUPS can use CUCM as LDAP , and you only have to import presence users using Database access AXL from CUCM.

what do u mean by subscribe CSS in this case?

--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUPC without AD?
To: "Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
Cc: ccie_voice at onlinestudylist.com, cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 11:39 AM

Well, I thought the SUBSCRIBE CSS was only to route presence requests
anyway (presuming you had bunches of presence devices...)

J

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Wes Sisk<wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:
> unfortunate. the subscribe css model is no longer used in CM as chris ward
> kindly informed us on this list recently.
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:48:04 PM , Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> No Presence Information After Login
> Solution
>
> Complete these steps:
>
>    1.
>
>       Ensure that the DNS server the PC is pointed to can resolve the
> fully qualified name of the CUPS server.
>
>       The host entry will not suffice, you must resolve via DNS.
>    2.
>
>       Check the SUBSCRIBE CSS on the SIP trunk to CUP.
>
>       This CSS must include the partitions of the devices you are
> trying to receive status on.
>    3.
>
>       The CUP SIP proxy incoming access control list (ACL) is not
> allowing incoming SIP presence messages to reach the presence engine.
> As a test, set the incoming ACL to ALL and reset the SIP proxy and
> presence engine. Then, re-login to the CUPC. After this, you can try
> to reconfigure the incoming ACL properly.
>
>
> Interestingly, there is no DNS on the lab either...
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> Check the troubleshooting guide for CUPC.  You have to get presence before
> you can IM.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
> Well, I can get CUPC to control phones, I can login with CUCM
> credentials...  but no IM, and no presence stuff...
>
> J
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> It may not.  The 7.0 deployment guide actually mentions that you can
> integrate CUCM with AD and not CUPS but it is not recommended as it
> basically neuters CUPC and causes performance issues.  It also notes that
> if
> CUCM ldap authentication is enabled CUPC will use CUCM for authentication
> (because CUPS syncs the enduser table from CUCM) so maybe it will work,
> but
> not well.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
> Wait, the CCIE V lab uses CUPS and CUPC but does not have AD... so no
> LDAP... how does CUPC work then?
>
>
>
> J
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to CUPS :)
>
> As I said CUCM is no longer an ldap server so you will need to build an
> ldap
> to point CUPS to.  If you don't want to do ldap sync on CUCM then the
> userids must be the same in ldap server CUPS is using and in CUCM.  You
> also
> cannot add contacts via CUPC when CUCM is not enabled for ldap sync (you
> have to use the CUPS User pages).
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:10 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
> Well, I have CUCM 7 and CUPS 7 and I want to be able to query CUCM for
> users from CUPC (so I can add users, etc...)
>
> CUCM is NOT AD integrated, and I want to set up CUPS to  point at CUCM...
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Ryan Ratliff<rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> Since CUPS is not supported with any Windows-based CUCM I seriously
> doubt
> it
> was ever tested using DCD as the ldap source.
>
> CUPS does _require_ ldap.  The ldap source can be anything that CUCM
> supports (AD, ND, etc).  Any CUCM that supports CUPS is not an ldap
> server.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
>
> How do you configure it?
>
> Do you set up LDAP to point to CUCM?
>
> Cuz I cannot search for users in DC Directory (CUCM) for CUPC.... am I
> missing something?
>
>
> J
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