[cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

Tue May 5 10:32:26 EDT 2009

I am sure it is. I tried getting it from our Cisco guys and the pointed me
to the public site and said to bad by MCS we make more money. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul [mailto:asobihoudai at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Voice Noob; Ryan Ratliff
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

The parts lists are available but you have to make sure you have a corporate
torture chamber and a few Cisco SMEs.

----- Original Message ----
From: Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com>
To: Paul <asobihoudai at yahoo.com>; Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com>
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:21:18 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

The problem is the *exact* specified parts are not available and orderable. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul [mailto:asobihoudai at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:19 AM
To: Voice Noob; Ryan Ratliff
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

My understanding is you can order non-MCS boxen at anytime, you just have to
make sure you have the *exact* specified parts list for Cisco or you'll end
up with a hair-pulling installation error.

----- Original Message ----
From: Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com>
To: Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com>
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:14:31 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

So when can we order NON MCS servers? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff at cisco.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:10 AM
To: Voice Noob
Cc: 'Jason Burns'; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

You are correct in the server equivalency but the second link Jason  
provided shows that server can only run 6.1(3) and the Windows CUCM.

-Ryan

On May 5, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Voice Noob wrote:

I think you are incorrect Jason. "It is the configuration equivalent  
of the Cisco MCS
7825-H4-IPC1/CCX1/CCE1. " If it is equivalent to a 7825H4 I should be  
able to run 7.0 on it.

From: Jason Burns [mailto:burns.jason at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:43 PM
To: Voice Noob
Cc: Jason Aarons (US); Paul; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

One additional caveat, just to make sure you're aware of this gotcha.

If you order a brand spanking new server directly from HP keep in  
mind that you may have to wait a while for a version of CallManager  
to come out that actually supports that server hardware.

It is hardcoded in the CCM installer to check the machine model /  
specs and give a go or no go on the install. If the server model is  
newer than the version of CCM you're installling - the install will  
fail.  Not the greatest design in my opinion, but I suppose they did  
it to ensure you're running on something that has been tested.

Before ordering hardware, always check the CCM software compatibility  
matrix:

http://cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/ 
products_device_support_tables_list.html

Supported Servers for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Releases

The server you're looking at from the rest of the thread looks to be:

HP DL320-G5p

Which is only supported in CCM 6.1.3, and NOT in 5, 6.1.2, or 7.  
(although it does have 4.X support)

Hope that helps.

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Voice Noob <voicenoob at gmail.com> wrote:

These parts are new. They are suppose to be for the H4 server.

HP DL320-G5p Server with Intel E8400 3-GHz Processor

The DL320-G5p is a high-performance server platform for today's unified
communications applications. It supports up to 1000 Cisco Unified IP  
Phones
on a single server and up to 4000 Cisco Unified IP Phones when clustered
properly. The required processor is an Intel E8400 3-GHz processor. No
specific memory configuration is required as long as 2 GB of memory is
provided. It is the configuration equivalent of the Cisco MCS
7825-H4-IPC1/CCX1/CCE1.
Table 6 lists the hardware configuration requirements.
Table 6. Hardware Configuration Requirements

Quantity
  HP Part Number
  Description

1
  445436-B21
  HP DL320R05p Mod0 Svr

1
  450436-B21
  DL1U 2 DRV CAGE FIO KIT

1
  509468-B21
  HPZE8400 DL320G5p Proc Option Kit

2
  450259-B21
  HP 1GB UB PC2-6400 1x1GB Kit

2
  458926-B21
  HP 250GB 3G SATA 7.2K 3.5" MDL HDD

1
  411508-B21
  HP Smart Array E200 Controller

1
  449991-B21
  HP DL320G5p 12.7mm DVD Kit

1
  450343-B21
  DL320G5p iLO2 PORT OPT KIT

Contact HP for specific power-supply and power cord options.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net

[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jason Aarons  
(US)
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:21 PM
To: Paul; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

The feedback I hear on this list is that these parts are from 2006 era
and you shouldn't be buying them if you talk to HP directly...Who wants
a 2006 Lexus when they can get a 2009/2010?

I was under the impression that a new parts list and new MCS line will
be out June/July timeframe for CallManager 7.0(2)...

However I have no authority on this and shouldn't be deemed an
authority, just a guess on my part that a server refresh is past due...

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:11 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Is the MCS-clone HP server parts list current?

I need this updated if it's not. I've got Cisco talking out of both
sides of their mouth. TAC says your list of parts *clearly* means that
the parts ordered aren't compatible and I checked against the HP server
parts list. Then the customer calls Cisco independently and they tell
him that the parts ordered *are* compatible.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6790/ps5748/ps378/p
roduct_solution_overview09186a0080107d79.html

I am not a happy camper.

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