[cisco-voip] call manager licensing

[Ted Nugent]

Of course it always depends on the product your talking about because it
would be ridiculous to have the same licensing model for all UC products
(insert eye roll here)
But with regards to CM
UCSS is based on either Device for Ala Carte Licencing or user for (not so)
CUWL.
ESW provides for minor patching and TAC support and UCSS provide major
upgrades, ESW is tied to your UCSS contract and when you order upgrades via
PUT you enter the ESW contract# to order your upgrades, makes perfect sense.

You of course can not have UCSS without ESW.
ESW is tied to the node license and the node license is tied to the max
number of users that can be supported on that node, hense, larger the server
the higher $$ the ESW

For ala carte you buy UCSS with your phones and with (not so) CUWL you
purchase UCSS for a user.



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Jason Aarons (US) <
jason.aarons at us.didata.com> wrote:

>  I’ve never understood why the penalty for using better hardware.  i.e.
> 7825 vs 7845.   I want the highest end fully redundant hardware even if my
> customer is small, yet the Linux Node licensing costs prevent that. Small
> shops end up buying something with single EIDE drives that have controller
> failures!
>
>
>
> I miss the Good O’l days.  Next stop will be service bits having to be
> enabled by TAC before you can make some changes.
>
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Mike O
> *Sent:* Friday, November 13, 2009 2:02 PM
> *To:* Countryman, Edward; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] call manager licensing
>
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>
> Ed,
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> In regards to ESW & UCSS you need both in order to be complaint and
> eligible for upgrades.  UCSS ties to the ESW contract # for the given
> product and when you register UCSS you must input the ESW contract #.
>
>
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> UCSS for Call Manager is based on node licenses for example a 7816-CCM SKU
> comes with a CCM node license for 500 users and the corresponding UCSS sku
> and ESW would be for 500 users. If you used the PUT tool you would receive a
> CM PAK key for 500 users. If you purchased CUWL you would be required to
> purchase ESW&UCSS for 3 years as its bundled with CUWL.
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> HTH,
>
> Mike
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Countryman, Edward <Edward.Countryman at provena.org>
>
> *To:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 13, 2009 9:17 AM
>
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] call manager licensing
>
>
>
> *Ever since we upgrade from 4.1 to 6.1 last spring I have been confused
> about how CCM licensing from Cisco works, what is really needed etc.     I
> know I need DLU’s for phones and I think I understand that.   What confuses
> me is how the server nodes are licensed and how ESW, UCSS is licensed.
>  There is a persistent reference to “number of users” however no where can I
> find a definition of “user” for this purpose.   Can anyone give me the “101”
> on call manager licensing, ESW and UCSS?  *
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