[cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

Mon Aug 2 16:57:02 EDT 2010

In addition to not being free, unity and Uconn have features that MS UM in 2007 (and to a lesser extent 2010) do not have... such as Call handlers... So they may have existing ms infrastructure, but they need unity / uconn for call handling in a lot of these cases.

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:34 PM
To: 'James Buchanan'; 'Vivek .....'; svoll.voip at gmail.com; vanmarennp at ldschurch.org
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

The exchange UM functionality is not free.

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of James Buchanan
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

I believe there are at least two reasons for this:

1.       Microsoft doesn't have the cleanest reputation for reliability (fair or not) which causes some to be shy to do this.

2.       Cisco partners typically do not have the strongest Microsoft partnership which causes them to shy away from this.

That's just my opinion.

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Vivek .....
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:05 PM
To: svoll.voip at gmail.com; vanmarennp at ldschurch.org
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

Microsoft Exchange 2007 can integrate directly with CUCM 7.x (AFAIK) using SIP for Unified Messaging. Not certain why people with existing MS Exch infrastructure aren't opting for this one if VM or UM is only what they want.

I believe Exch server 2007 can provide Unified Messaging for CME too. Haven't tried this one though.
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:14:10 -0700
From: svoll.voip at gmail.com<mailto:svoll.voip at gmail.com>
To: VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org<mailto:VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org>
CC: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

Wow, I would like to know where Voicemail is Mission Critical?  In a day in age that there are so many other options or low cost VM solutions, it's amazing that companies would pay full price for both to get that kind of redundancy.

Watch as I say this, our company will want it ;-).

Scott
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Nate VanMaren <VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org<mailto:VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org>> wrote:
You basically buy two voicemail systems, CUE and UCONN, full license cost for both.  Plus a UMG and license for that.

On the non-cost side it's a pretty cool idea, with subscriber sync and message forwarding to UCONN etc.

www.cisco.com/go/srsv<http://www.cisco.com/go/srsv>

And it's not a 8.5 feature.  It's a  8.0 deal.

-Nate

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Jobe Gates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:21 AM
To: Dennis Heim

Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

Does it sync the subscriber messages?

Thanks,
Jobe

On Jul 31, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com<mailto:Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>> wrote:
Looks like Survivable Remote Site Voicemail (SRSV), is a NME with a CUE module in it at each site. Then is looks like you sync some certificates between the CUE and UCONN. Based on the doc on Cisco it looks like it is CUE+ interconnect to UCONN. Could be interesting, but curious on what the $$$'s in hardware and licensing.

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Vivek .....
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity Connection with Unified Messaging Q4 2010

Just heard that Unity Connection 8.5 will be coming out in the 4th Quarter of 2010 and will support Unified Messaging.

Some of the other features in CUC 8.5
Calendaring
Cisco SpeechView (Speech-to-Text transcription service)
Survivable Remote Site Voicemail (SRSV)
Higher scalability than Unity (250 ports, 20K users)
SIP sRTP/TLS support

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From: MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
To: wsisk at cisco.com<mailto:wsisk at cisco.com>; ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:18:24 -0400
CC: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM/CUCXN 8.0.3 is Out and the ISO is Bootable!
Out of insane curiosity, why no patching during install anymore?

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From: Wes Sisk [mailto:wsisk at cisco.com<mailto:wsisk at cisco.com>]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:10 AM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM/CUCXN 8.0.3 is Out and the ISO is Bootable!

there should be 2 unique file names. procedure for joining those files is covered in release notes:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/rel_notes/8_0_3/cucm-rel_notes-803.html#wp1776144

/Wes

On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:02:36 PM, Ahmed Elnagar <<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>> wrote:
Wow that is amazing :)...but I can see that there are two iso files and when I try to download them they are the same files names...how can I combine both of them??? Or are they in the format of CD1 and CD2??

 Best Regards;
  Ahmed Elnagar
  Senior Network PS Engineer
  Mob: +2019-0016211
  CCIE#24697 (Voice)
 Error! Filename not specified.

From: Wes Sisk [mailto:wsisk at cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:35 AM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM/CUCXN 8.0.3 is Out and the ISO is Bootable!

The same single ISO is used for CM, CUCMBE, and Unity Connection.

/Wes

On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:52:51 PM, Ahmed Elnagar <<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com<mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>> wrote:
I cannot find it on the CCO can you post a link to that software...I have a unity connection implementation that is pending on the shipment of the media and that would help us very much.

 Best Regards;
  Ahmed Elnagar
  Senior Network PS Engineer
  Mob: +2019-0016211
  CCIE#24697 (Voice)
 Error! Filename not specified.

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Wes Sisk
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:46 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM/CUCXN 8.0.3 is Out and the ISO is Bootable!

No plans to go backward but it is intentional going forward.  We are working on getting it everywhere we can starting with 7.1.5bsu2, 8.0.3, and 8.5.1. When I get updated confirmation I will share as much as possible in a support forums doc.

Note, you will still need to place orders in order to get PAK for licensing.  This should greatly reduce media issues though. It's been a long time coming and the need to remove the 'patch during install' option finally pushed it over the top.

/Wes

On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:17:42 AM, Matthew Loraditch <<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>> wrote:
I believe I read in the CUCM RN that patching will no longer be allowed during install, and that I presume is part of the reasoning for putting out full ISOs
Don't suppose you guys want to go back and refresh all the other builds? :)

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From: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff at cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:11 AM
To: Bill
Cc: Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM/CUCXN 8.0.3 is Out and the ISO is Bootable!

Not at all, and the same goes for CUCM, though I don't believe it is documented anywhere.

The 8.0(3) engineering specials will also be bootable (no more upgrade during install) and will be advertised as such.

-Ryan

On Jul 28, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Bill wrote:

It was probably a mistake. :)

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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
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Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM/CUCXN 8.0.3 is Out and the ISO is Bootable!

>From the 8.0.2 RN: The upgrade application posted on Cisco.com<http://Cisco.com> can be used only to upgrade to Cisco Unity Connection 8.0. It cannot be used to install a new Connection 8.0 server.
>From the 8.0.3 RN: The software application posted on Cisco.com<http://Cisco.com> can be used to install a new Cisco Unity Connection 8.0(3) server or to upgrade an existing Connection server to version 8.0(3).

All I can say is awesome!!

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