[cisco-voip] building a new cluster from DMA (getting from point A to point B)

Wes Sisk wsisk at cisco.com
Mon Aug 9 15:52:30 EDT 2010


Inline again, ws.

On Monday, August 09, 2010 3:32:40 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> Thanks Wes.
>
> I installed the publisher without an NTP source (it sync'ed to the 
> hardware clock) and then when I tried to install a subscriber it 
> choked, said it couldn't contact the NTP server on the publisher. I 
> tried reconfiguring NTP on the publisher to the local switch, but I 
> don't think it liked it.
ws: not likely, CM needs a stratum 3(?) or better source. See SRND.  
Configuring stratum on router/switch is undesirable as NTP process will 
monitor clock drift.
> Anyways, the subscriber installed terminated abruptly after I said retry.
>
> I'm not sure how to make the publisher believe the switch is a valid 
> NTP source. Any clues? I don't have to reinstall the publisher do I?
ws: you can definitely add one from CLI. you may be able to do it from 
platform web pages.  Just give it a valid NTP reference.  You can 
restart NTP to expedite the sync.  Use 'utils ntp status' and make sure 
you're not seeing '*127.127.1.0' as this indicates you're still using 
the internal clock.
>
> Regarding, the cluster itself...everything is new hardware - pub and 
> subs. The steps you point to refer to changing the IP address on the 
> subscribers, but they don't exist yet. This leads me to believe that 
> changing the IP addresses on the publisher is sufficient, then I begin 
> re-installing the subscribers with the new IP addresses.
ws: Yep! Just re-ip your publisher.  change it under system->server and 
then from CLI/platform. Then reboot.  After that install subs.
>
> Perhaps it will just be easier once the publisher is built and the IP 
> addresses are changed, to move it back to the production network, 
> configure a valid NTP source and start building the subscribers after 
> that?
ws: just need valid NTP source so clocks get in sync before database 
tries to replicate.
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Wes Sisk" <wsisk at cisco.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Monday, August 9, 2010 2:48:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] building a new cluster from DMA (getting 
> from point A        to point B)
>
> Inline, ws.
>
> On Monday, August 09, 2010 9:53:54 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
> <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>
>     I'm going through building a new cluster that I'd like to run
>     concurrently on my network with new IP addresses and CallManager
>     names. I have always used IP addresses and would like to continue
>     using IP addresses for now. I've installed 7.1(3a) along with a
>     DMA import. Then I applied 7.1(5) upgrade. No problems. I did this
>     all in an isolated switch with only the publisher and FTP server.
>
> ws: make sure you provide it a valid NTP reference, espcially if this 
> standalone will become a cluster.
>
>
>     Can I just go into the servers, change the IP address, then go
>     into the CallManagers and change the names? Is it that simple?
>     That way I wouldn't have to bother messing around with CallPark
>     numbers and CallManager groups. If simply changing them is the
>     answer should I change one first?
>
>     Once I confirm there is no communications happening from the new
>     publisher to the old cluster (via wireshark) I can then plug in
>     the publisher into the network and start installing new subscribers.
>
>     This is what I have now:
>
>     publisher hostname: iptccm105
>     publisher ip addr: 10.104.91.105
>
>     (during the install, the process asked me about changing the ip
>     address, but i can't recall if it asked me about changing the
>     name, but i think it did)
>
>     The old/new information is below.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Servers:
>
>     10.104.20.101 (OLD) -> 10.104.91.104 (NEW)
>     10.104.20.103 (OLD) -> 10.104.91.103 (NEW)
>     10.104.91.105 (no change)
>     10.104.96.104 (OLD) -> 10.104.91.204 (NEW)
>     10.104.96.106 (OLD) -> 10.104.91.205 (NEW)
>     10.104.96.108 (OLD) -> 10.104.91.203 (NEW)
>
>     _CallManagers:_
>     uogccm101 (pointing to 10.104.20.101) -> iptccm104 (pointing to
>     10.104.91.104)
>     uogccm103 (pointing to 10.104.20.103) -> iptccm103 (pointing to
>     10.104.91.103)
>     uogccm104 (pointing to 10.104.96.104) -> iptccm204 (pointing to
>     10.104.91.204)
>     uogccm105 (pointing to 10.104.91.105) -> iptccm105 (pointing to
>     10.104.91.105)
>     uogccm106 (pointing to 10.104.96.106) -> iptccm205 (pointing to
>     10.104.91.205)
>     uogccm108 (pointing to 10.104.96.108) -> iptccm203 (pointing to
>     10.104.91.203)
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>     ws: Are you replacing the whole cluster or trying to replace just
>     individual nodes?  If you are replacing the whole cluster then you
>     just need follow the proper process to change server hostname and ip:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/7_1_2/ipchange/ipchg712.html
>
> If you are looking to replace certain nodes within the cluster then  
> you will need to reinstall and restore those nodes from backup. This 
> is especially true if you are attempting to replace the publisher node 
> in an existing cluster.
>
> /Wes
>
>
>     ---
>     Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>     Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>     (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                                   - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
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