[cisco-voip] PRI Clocking

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Thu Aug 26 11:06:23 EDT 2010


geeez, next they'll be asking you to add " cablelength long 0db" to your config. ;) 

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From: "Go0se" <me at go0se.com> 
To: "Mike King" <me at mpking.com>, "Cisco VoIPoE List" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:00:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] PRI Clocking 

You should expect a PRI to ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS run clean. Faxing is 
especially susceptive to errors/failure across a PRI that has errors. And 
you should ALWAYS clock off of the TELCO. That is ridiculous that they 
suggested you provide an internal clock for a PRI. Do you have your network 
clock participate and network clock select correct? 

Thanks, 

Go0se 

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http://atc.go0se.com 

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-----Original Message----- 
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike King 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:41 AM 
To: Cisco VoIPoE List 
Subject: [cisco-voip] PRI Clocking 

Just for someone to check my sanity. 
I'm having the standard argument with Telco today (We don't see anything, 
it must be your equipment) 

I have a PRI that I've had complaints of dropped calls. 

I go an check the log on the 2921 router, and see this (Across 3 different 
dates, just one posted for brevity) 

092856: Jul 30 2010 09:49:36.861 EDT: %MARS_NETCLK-3-HOLDOVER: 
Entering Holdover for Controller T1 0/0/0 
092857: Jul 30 2010 09:49:38.613 EDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface 
Serial0/0/0:23, changed state to down 
092858: Jul 30 2010 09:49:47.113 EDT: %MARS_NETCLK-3-HOLDOVER_TRANS: 
Holdover timer exceeded for Controller T1 0/0/0 
092859: Jul 30 2010 09:49:47.113 EDT: %MARS_NETCLK-3-CLK_TRANS: 
Network clock source transitioned from priority 1 to priority 10 
092861: Jul 30 2010 09:57:23.612 EDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface 
Serial0/0/0:23, changed state to up 
092863: Jul 30 2010 09:57:32.112 EDT: %MARS_NETCLK-3-CLK_TRANS: 
Network clock source transitioned from priority 10 to priority 1 

I also have CRC's on the serial0/0/0:23 (not a whole lot, just some) 

Telco of course says they've pulled PM's and see nothing. I've been pushing 
the issue with my Telco Rep, and he's suggested that since it seems to be a 
clocking issue (His words) that maybe we should set our PRI to internal 
clocking. 

I reset the counters on my serial interface, and in the past 2 days, I've 
recieved 1 CRC. I've also not had the PRI drop any calls. (Or the whole PRI 
drop, which is what I assume from those log messages) 


I have another circuit at a different site, I reset it's counters at the 
same time 48 hours ago, and It had this today (also I don't have any reports 
of dropped calls, just problems faxing).. 
12 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 
32 input errors, 32 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 2 abort 

My question is this: 

Is it Normal to have some number of CRC's on a PRI? 
My personal experience is to ALWAY clock off Telco, and you should not have 
any errors on my lines. Am I wrong with this assumption? 

Mike 
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