[cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade

Mon Dec 13 13:36:23 EST 2010

UC reporting.

<RANT>
Tried to run a report.  Get a report with mostly blanks.  (note this was
just after we upgraded to UC 7.1 from Unity 4 about 4 month ago)

get our AM / SE / Unified guy involved and they say upgrade to 8 for the
fix.  My response is it take >12 months to get testing / approval done.  Fix
it in 7.1.x.  BU says upgrade.  We have just given up for now..... I guess
at the next upgrade we will get some of our features back.........

</RANT>

Scott

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Bill Riley <bill at hitechconnection.net>wrote:

>  What bugs are you talking about? I would like to see specifics on a bug
> they will not fix in a current version.
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2010 11:22 AM
> *To:* Ahmed Elnagar
>
> *Cc:* voyp list
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
>
>
> I think we would be less concerned with the multitude of versions if they
> continued supporting the older versions. There are many bugs in v7.x which
> they simply say fixed in v8.x. There is no EOL on v7 yet, why not fix these
> bugs in the version that is still alive?
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:59 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>
> wrote:
>
>  I totally agree with you…FYI version 9 is released internally I think in
> cisco and seems that Cisco engineers are working on it to figure out any
> bugs in it J
>
> If you use Bug tool kit you will see an option for CUCM version 9 :D
>
>
>
> Regarding the hop from 8.0 to 8.5 I think there is some reason for that as
> it was the same for 7 as they released 7.1.5 before 7.1.4 ever exists…I
> don’t know but seems there is a core change with that version “other than
> the restricted and unrestricted part I don’t see any significant change”
>
>
>
> For us who deploy CUCM…sure we are not enjoying this nightmare L
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice
>
>
>
> *From:* David Zhars [mailto:dzhars at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:32 PM
> *To:* Ahmed Elnagar
> *Cc:* Lelio Fulgenzi; voyp list
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
>
>
> What is up with Cisco's rapid version increases with CM?  My gawd, 4 years
> ago we had 4.1, then 5 (seemed short lived),then 6 (didn't seem to be the
> new guy on the block very long either), then 7 (which I was told would be
> the one that was real stable and would hang around awhile).  Before I knew
> it, we had 8, now we have 8.5!!!  Am I correct to assume there was no 8.1,
> 8.2, 8.3, 8.4??
> I wish they would slow down the versioning just a bit!
>
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Ahmed Elnagar <ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>
> wrote:
>
> We have a rule here through Cisco that no product is sold without a
> maintenance contract “Smart net or Co-brand as I remember” so this is always
> a valid option.
>
>
>
> And BTW just checked CCO and the version 8.5(1) just released 7-DEC.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice
>
>
>
> *From:* Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:57 PM
> *To:* Ahmed Elnagar
> *Cc:* Bill Talley; voyp list
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
>
>
> By license, I meant "right to upgrade". Upgrading from 8.0 to 8.5 is not
> free per se, you need to be on a maintenance contract of some type.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:51 AM, "Ahmed Elnagar" <ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>
> wrote:
>
>  I think there will be no difference in the license for 8.5 if you have
> 8.x then you can run any version of CUCM 8…also I think files are
> downloadable now as ISO images.
>
> But I think 8.5 is not released on CCO till now as I think.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:28 AM
> *To:* Bill Talley
> *Cc:* voyp list
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
>
>
> for sure...if *only *8.0 is available for whatever reason, i.e. media
> and/or license, then yes, 7.1.5 is not a viable option.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
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>
> *From: *"Bill Talley" <btalley at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>, "Leslie Meade" <
> lmeade at signal.ca>
> *Sent: *Friday, December 10, 2010 10:24:53 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
> You're correct, however, if she doesn't have 8.5 and upgrades to 7.1.5, how
> does she get to 8.0(x)?
>
>
>
> Sent from a mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please
> excuse my typos.
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>  as per the compatibility matrix (all hail the compatibility matrix!),
> upgrades from 7.1.5 to 8.5 are supported.
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr.html#wp278167
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Bill Talley" <btalley at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Leslie Meade" <lmeade at signal.ca>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Friday, December 10, 2010 6:35:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
> Just don't go to 7.1.5.  IIRC, right now the upgrade paths to 8 from 7
> include only 7.1.3 and earlier.
>
> Sent from a mobile device with very tiny touchscreen input keys. Please
> excuse my typos.
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:25 PM, "Leslie Meade" <lmeade at signal.ca> wrote:
>
>  Many thanks I knew it had to goto 7 first but wanted to make sure
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Loraditch [mailto:MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 10, 2010 2:21 PM
> *To:* Leslie Meade; voyp list
> *Subject:* RE: 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
>
>
> yes
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>
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>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Leslie Meade
> *Sent:* Friday, December 10, 2010 4:58 PM
> *To:* voyp list
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] 4.2 to 8 upgrade
>
>
>
> Am I correct saying that I need to go to 7 first and then onto 8 ?
>
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