[cisco-voip] Cool Licensing

Fri Jan 1 12:23:42 EST 2010

The web conferencing engine for MP is Adobe Connect.  There really is no SKU specific to Adobe Connect portion per se…..it is just bundled into the solution.  I’m sure Cisco could increase their margins if they just replaced the engine with WebEx and did away with Adobe Connect.  There would also be a lot better support.  I have gotten a lot on answers to questions/problems from the BU along the lines of “That is just how Adobe Connect works” or “Sorry, that is a limitation of Adobe Connect”.

Jason

From: lelio at uoguelph.ca [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Jason Shearer
Cc: John Huston; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; JonathanCharles
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing

Cisco re-sells Adobe Connect? Does it have a Cisco SKU?

Lelio Fulgenzi, Senior Analyst
Computing & Communications
University of Guelph
519-824-4120 x56354

...sent from my iPod - please pardon my fat fingers ;)

[XKJ2000]

On 2010-01-01, at 11:28 AM, Jason Shearer <jshearer at amedisys.com<mailto:jshearer at amedisys.com>> wrote:
Correct on the acronyms.  I am speculating that the MP and MPX will merge in the near future as they are getting pretty close to the same feature sets.  MP7 actually uses a lot of base code from MPX in the application server.  No reason to continue development of two products.  WebEx is sure to be Cisco’s standard for the web conferencing portion of the collaboration suite……no reason to continue reselling Adobe Connect.

I will also be interesting to see what Cisco does with the rebranded Radvison MCU now that they own Tandberg.

Happy new year to all.

Jason

From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:44 PM
To: John Huston
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing

mp=meeting place
mpx=meeting place express

i thinks.

webex (and other hosted solutions) seems to be taking focus now. but i think it's cyclical. hosted now, on premise next year. bottom line is if you want hosted applications for mission critical apps, you're going to be pouring your dollars into redundant internet connections.

there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Huston" <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com<mailto:fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>>
To: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com<mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com>>, "Jason Shearer" <jshearer at amedisys.com<mailto:jshearer at amedisys.com>>
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What is MP and MPX?  Never heard those terms before?

Thanks

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Jason Shearer <jshearer at amedisys.com<mailto:jshearer at amedisys.com>> wrote:

From: Jason Shearer <jshearer at amedisys.com<mailto:jshearer at amedisys.com>>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing
To: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com<mailto:jonvoip at gmail.com>>, "John Huston" <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com<mailto:fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>>
Cc: "cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:39 PM
Licensing is just sold as a discounted bundle….nothing changes technically.  The one thing that sucks is no full MP licensing with pro…..just MPX.  I heard this may be changing.

Jason

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing

Nope, you just get a big book of PAKs

Jonathan
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:22 PM, John Huston <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com</mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
Do you setup a licensing server?

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com</mc/compose?to=jonvoip at gmail.com>> wrote:

From: Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com</mc/compose?to=jonvoip at gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Cool Licensing
To: "John Huston" <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com</mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net</mc/compose?to=cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:20 PM

Well, it works pretty normally, but instead of buying DLUs as needed you get 17 DLUs per user (or less, 17 is for pro...)...

You also get UM licenses for Unity (or user/port licenses for CUC), licenses for MPX, Presence, etc...

Jonathan

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:14 PM, John Huston <fentonguy2003 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fentonguy2003@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Is anyone using Cisco's cool licensing with their CallManager and Unity systems and if so how does it work?

Thanks!!

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