[cisco-voip] SNR and caller-id - cell phone doesn't showcustomers number but instead the office number

Bill Riley bill at hitechconnection.net
Wed May 26 19:29:37 EDT 2010


I also have never had a problem with TELCO's not allowing me to send
whatever CLID I wanted after I asked them. 

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mark Rudholm
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:38 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SNR and caller-id - cell phone doesn't
showcustomers number but instead the office number

Forwarded calls would lose CID if providers started enforcing CID
restrictions.  I've never seen a carrier refuse, and I don't expect
them to start refusing.

-Mark

Ted Nugent wrote:
> I have literally setup 100s of PRIs and at least in the US  have only 2 
> instances that i can remember where a provider has not allowed the 
> client to pass their own CLID if its specifically requested. I actually 
> just did a handful of new full and frac PRIs over the past 2 weeks and 
> there was no push back whatsoever from 2 separate providers? perhaps it 
> is provider specific and i have just been lucky?? I don't know... This 
> is almost a mandatory requirement when clients needs to mask with a 
> tollfree number and if this is changing I can foresee many unhappy
clients. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Ahmed Elnagar 
> <ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com <mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I think it is very difficult to convince a provider to allow just
>     everything to pass from your E1's.it is new for me to know that some
>     providers allows you to set caller ID on your own.
> 
>      
> 
>      Best Regards;
> 
>       Ahmed Elnagar
> 
>       Senior Network PS Engineer
> 
>       Mob: +2019-0016211
> 
>       CCIE#24697 (Voice)
> 
>      ccie_voice_large.gifccvp_voice_large.gif
> 
>      
> 
>     *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>     <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
>     [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>     <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Ted Nugent
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:53 PM
> 
> 
>     *To:* Jason Aarons (US)
>     *Cc:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] SNR and caller-id - cell phone doesn't
>     showcustomers number but instead the office number
> 
>      
> 
>     Historically we've just had the provider remove the screening table
>     (aka allow CPE to provide CLID) but if your hitting new legislation
>     then I can see SNR for MOST clients going into the toilet. Is q931
>     debug showing proper CLID on the outbound leg? if so then and the
>     provider refuses to work with you then I agree with the sales people
>     its totally useless. I've been lucky enough not to have this be a
>     problem yet on a PRI.
> 
>      
> 
>     On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jason Aarons (US)
>     <jason.aarons at us.didata.com <mailto:jason.aarons at us.didata.com>>
wrote:
> 
>     Sales people are asking if the original calling party number can
>     show up when using Mobility (SNR).  So call comes into office,
>     office dials out up to 4 locations passing the office's caller id to
>     the cell phone.  Lots of telcos block what caller id can come out of
>     your PRI (usually it's your DIDs or the main BTN), a few will pass
>     anything, in the case of this customer their telco limits what they
>     can pass to main number/DIDs.
> 
>      
> 
>     So the feedback from the customer is that SNR is useless for sales
>     people as they answer their cell phone only based upon Caller ID and
>     now all calls from customers show the main office phone number in
>     caller id
> 
>      
> 
>     Is there any feedback? Seems the FCC is enacting new legislation
>     limiting what calling party numbers can be passed out, seems a few
>     telemarkers have been forging their calling party number to get
>     around call blocking equipment.
> 
>      
> 
>     https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2013151.pdf
> 
>     This didn't work as telco is overwriting by policy.
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