[cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads

[Anthony Holloway]

Can I piggyback on this topic?

So I take a NIB phone, and I plug it in, and it fails to upgrade because my
CUCM has phones loads above 8.5(2).  Are you saying that if I change out my
default.loads files for 8.4(4) ones, I would eliminate the upgrade failure
scenario of plugging in a NIB phone (which presumably ships with older than
8.4(4) firmware)?

So the game plan looks like this:
  phone boots for first time
  dhcp address assigned, and option 150 points to tftp
  phone grabs the default.loads file, and reads which version is should pull
down
  I go grab some five guys
  phone grabs firmware and begins to upgrade to 8.4(4)
  phone resets
  phone registers to CUCM, grabbing its XML config, and reads which version
is should pull down
  phone grabs firmware and begins to upgrade to 8.5(3)
  phone resets
  phone registers
  I come back and see a registered phone

Anthony

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Ah - cool. Never thought about that application.
>
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> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
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> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:21:39 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>
> That's correct, they will do two upgrades.  In some cases this may be
> desired with the default load being 8.4(4) so that both old and new phones
> can upgrade easily to later loads given the restrictions for going past
> 8.5(2).
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> Thanks Ryan.
>
> I'm guessing then, if I don't update those files, and perform a factory
> reset, the phone will first load the previous version, try to register to
> call manager, see the new firmware information and then upgrade?
>
> So basically downgrade, then upgrade?
>
> I'm not saying I want to keep it this way, just trying to understand what
> will happen. I guess I could actually confirm the results by doing this
> myself too.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:17:58 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>
> They are used to recover from a factory reset.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7962g_7942g/7_0/english/administration/guide/7962trb.html#wp1031705
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
> ok...when are they used then? if i keep the originals from a previous
> version, copy over firmware files from a new version and update either the
> device defaults page or manually configure a phone is that ok?
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:16:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>
> They are never created, only copied either manually via zip file (windows
> CCM) or by the load installer.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>
>
> can anyone shed some light on when i need to overwrite the
> term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads files when copying over firmware
> files?
>
> if i just copy over the firmware files and modify the device defaults on
> CCM, will it create these two files new?
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
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