[cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads

[Anthony Holloway]

Yes that is correct, NIB = new in box.

Oh, Ok, so I NIB phone is NOT sitting at a "factory reset" state?  I was
under the impression that new phones, in the box, and from the factory, were
exactly in the same state as a phone who was "factory reset."

That's what I get for assuming.

Anthony

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> I'm assuming NIB is "new in box" ??
>
> I believe the one step you're missing here is resetting the phone to
> factory defaults so that it grabs the term42.default.loads file
> appropriately.
>
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>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Anthony Holloway" <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com<avholloway%2Bcisco-voip at gmail.com>
> >
>
> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> *Cc: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>, "voyp list" <
> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:48:35 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>
> Can I piggyback on this topic?
>
> So I take a NIB phone, and I plug it in, and it fails to upgrade because my
> CUCM has phones loads above 8.5(2).  Are you saying that if I change out my
> default.loads files for 8.4(4) ones, I would eliminate the upgrade failure
> scenario of plugging in a NIB phone (which presumably ships with older than
> 8.4(4) firmware)?
>
> So the game plan looks like this:
>   phone boots for first time
>   dhcp address assigned, and option 150 points to tftp
>   phone grabs the default.loads file, and reads which version is should
> pull down
>   I go grab some five guys
>   phone grabs firmware and begins to upgrade to 8.4(4)
>   phone resets
>   phone registers to CUCM, grabbing its XML config, and reads which version
> is should pull down
>   phone grabs firmware and begins to upgrade to 8.5(3)
>   phone resets
>   phone registers
>   I come back and see a registered phone
>
> Anthony
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>> Ah - cool. Never thought about that application.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:21:39 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>>
>> That's correct, they will do two upgrades.  In some cases this may be
>> desired with the default load being 8.4(4) so that both old and new phones
>> can upgrade easily to later loads given the restrictions for going past
>> 8.5(2).
>>
>>  -Ryan
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Ryan.
>>
>> I'm guessing then, if I don't update those files, and perform a factory
>> reset, the phone will first load the previous version, try to register to
>> call manager, see the new firmware information and then upgrade?
>>
>> So basically downgrade, then upgrade?
>>
>> I'm not saying I want to keep it this way, just trying to understand what
>> will happen. I guess I could actually confirm the results by doing this
>> myself too.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:17:58 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>>
>> They are used to recover from a factory reset.
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7962g_7942g/7_0/english/administration/guide/7962trb.html#wp1031705
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>>
>> ok...when are they used then? if i keep the originals from a previous
>> version, copy over firmware files from a new version and update either the
>> device defaults page or manually configure a phone is that ok?
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ryan Ratliff" <rratliff at cisco.com>
>> *To: *"Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
>> *Cc: *"voyp list" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:16:31 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads
>>
>> They are never created, only copied either manually via zip file (windows
>> CCM) or by the load installer.
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>>
>>
>> can anyone shed some light on when i need to overwrite the
>> term42.default.loads & term62.default.loads files when copying over firmware
>> files?
>>
>> if i just copy over the firmware files and modify the device defaults on
>> CCM, will it create these two files new?
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Cooking with unix is easy. You just sed it and forget it.
>>                               - LFJ (with apologies to Mr. Popeil)
>>
>>
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