[cisco-voip] Cisco MCS vs UCS Servers

Nick Matthews matthnick at gmail.com
Sat Sep 25 12:37:24 EDT 2010


If your VMware publisher wasn't on a UCS server, then it isn't supported.
3rd party hardware isn't supported yet, except for Unity.

-nick

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>wrote:

> Interesting, I was told by TAC that it was not supported.  To burn in
> hardware and to do some lab work before I put a subscriber into production,
> I paired it with a virtual publisher, upgrade on them failed miserably (they
> would run at the default version off the DVD), but I couldn't upgrade from
> whatever 8.x I had on DVD to current.
>
> If anyone wants details on this, I can dig it up, I had posted on here with
> the upgrade errors, when no response was had, opened a case on it and was
> told no.
>
> BTW, my subscriber was an IBM server, 7835 series.
>
> YMMV
> Charles
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Nick Matthews <matthnick at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yes.  Some of the limitations of the hardware are things like MoH live
>> feeds, your console dumps now go somewhere else, RTMT hardware stats are
>> replaced with some VMware/UCS equivalents, etc.  But from an application
>> layer it's the same.  It does however know how much CPU/disk/memory you've
>> given it and shows on the about screen.
>>
>> -nick
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:19 PM, STEVEN CASPER <SCASPER at mtb.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Interesting.... For me to upgrade to 8.x I need to replace 4 of my
>>> subscribers and my publisher next year however I just purchased some HP G6
>>> servers to replace my 7835 servers. Can you mix virtual subscribers and a
>>> publisher with MCS type subscriber and TFTP servers?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> >>> Ahmed Elnagar <ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com> 9/23/2010 7:01 PM >>>
>>>
>>> Cisco SEs is pushing on the virtualization for new customers and
>>> customers considering upgrading to version 8.x…be aware that all H series is
>>> already EOS due to the bad relationship between Cisco and HP “obviuolsy the
>>> UCS was part of the fight” IBM servers has a lot of problems “this is from
>>> my own personal point of view”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> UCS is great C series configuration is to support 4 X 7945 server and the
>>> cost is significantly less than hardware server…plus the added benefits like
>>> hardware efficiency and DC sizing for large customers…etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The drawbacks would be that you will need experience not only in UC part
>>> but add to it the VMware and UCS itself…if you are going to B series it is
>>> more complicated than the C series.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A great advantage for UCS is that you are able to have a sort of a
>>> “redundant Publisher server” as the database is stored in SAN and if the
>>> engineer fails it switches over to another own automatically so as if you
>>> have a redundant server “but I think this is supported with the B series” I
>>> am not very aware of deep technical info in this part.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I were you I would go with UCS C series “for easier management”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And remember; all the world is going virtual J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Best Regards;
>>>
>>>   Ahmed Elnagar
>>>
>>>   Senior Network PS Engineer
>>>
>>>   Mob: +2019-0016211
>>>
>>>   CCIE#24697 (Voice)
>>>
>>>  [image: ccie_voice_large.gif]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
>>> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *
>>> george.hendrix at l-3com.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:41 PM
>>> *To:* cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>>> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Cisco MCS vs UCS Servers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   I noticed Cisco has the new UCS C and B series servers.  Does anyone
>>> have any thoughts as to whether these are the way to go or not?  Do they
>>> perform better than the MCS H or I series?  Also since these are out now,
>>> does anyone know if there are plans to put the remainder of the MCS servers
>>> EOL?  BTW, this would be for a new CUCM 8 installation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bill Hendrix
>>>
>>>
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