[cisco-voip] RTMT versions and product compatibility

Ovidiu Popa ovi.popa at gmail.com
Fri Apr 1 15:02:00 EDT 2011


Hello Ryan

Here are the "rumor" details:
RTMT from CUCM 8.0.3.20000-2 installed on my machine on C:\Program 
Files\Cisco\Unified Communications Manager Serviceability
RTMT from CUPS  8.5.1.10000-35 to be installed at C:\Program 
Files\Cisco\Presence Serviceability\JRtmt

I think the warning message is pretty self-explanatory:

"
Warning: You have a RTMT of version 8.5.0.0 already installed. You are 
not allowed to install more than one copy of RTMT of same version on the 
same machine
...
Warning: Existing RTMT version 8.5.0.0 will be uninstalled if the 
current installation is continued.
"

Attched the screenshots.

Regards,
Ovidiu



On 01/Apr/11 7:54 PM, Ryan Ratliff wrote:
> I'd love to see where that rumor got started.  I have no less than 4 
> versions of RTMT installed on my PC right now.  I'm pretty sure the 
> introduction of the RTMT version into the program has alleviated the 
> multiple install issues.  Of course having 3 different program groups 
> under Programs->Cisco for various incarnations is fun too.
>
> In general I use the latest and assume it's backwards compatible, at 
> least for what I need it for (pulling traces).  Some of the advanced 
> features may not be reliable with older versions and you should never 
> expect an older RTMT to work with newer CUCM.
>
> As for one RTMT for various products I'm thinking the move to Unified 
> Serviceability with RTMT 8.7 and 8.8 is a signal that there is a 
> desire for that to work.  Whether it does or not I've not tested.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Mac GroupStudy wrote:
>
> Rumor has it Cisco TAC uses ONE version of RTMT for access to all of 
> our versions of CUCM. Why can't we have that.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Garrett Skjelstad 
> <garrett at skjelstad.org <mailto:garrett at skjelstad.org>> wrote:
>
>     I think I'd prefer versions to be backwards compatible and simply
>     a drop down box allowing me to choose which version I was going to
>     be operating against. This would allow the UI to be fresh with
>     whatever the latest version is, but allow backwards compatibility
>     against previous revisions of software.
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Mar 31, 2011, at 22:38, Paul <asobihoudai at yahoo.com
>     <mailto:asobihoudai at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     > I'd normally agree but seeing how RTMT must be changed according
>     to each
>     > modification to the application, I think it's not completely
>     unreasonable to
>     > upgrade/downgrade RTMT for the sake of strict
>     compatibility...plus it doesn't
>     > even require a reboot!
>     >
>     > Think of cases where a piece of software maintains backwards
>     compatibility for
>     > the long haul...that's where you get software like MS Windows
>     where cruft is
>     > built upon cruft upon cruft...you get the picture. I think I'd
>     rather have RTMT
>     > not require 1GB+ memory/HDD just for the sake of having one
>     version to work with
>     > all versions.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message ----
>     > From: Jason Aarons (US) <jason.aarons at us.didata.com
>     <mailto:jason.aarons at us.didata.com>>
>     > To: Ovidiu Popa <ovi.popa at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ovi.popa at gmail.com>>; "cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>     <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>"
>     > <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>
>     > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 6:47:30 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] RTMT versions and product compatibility
>     >
>     >
>     > At RTMT  install change the folder name to something else c:\program
>     > files\rtmtv8 vs c:\program files\rtmtv85
>     >
>     > Surely this complaint must be at some Product Manager within
>     Cisco working hard
>     > to get a resolution.  It's truly a headache and a mystery as
>     deep as  "Where is
>     > Jimmy Hoffa?" and "Who really shot JFK?"
>     >
>     > I vote for 1 version of RTMT. Anyone want to second that motion?
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>     <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
>     > [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>     <mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of Ovidiu Popa
>     > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:34 PM
>     > To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>     > Subject: [cisco-voip] RTMT versions and product compatibility
>     >
>     > Hello everyone
>     >
>     > I have a couple of questions related to RTMT:
>     >
>     > - what is the relationship between RTMT versions and software
>     product versions
>     > (CUCM, CUPS etc): Can we use a newer version of RTMT to connect
>     to older
>     > versions of software e.g. using RTMT from CUCM 8 to connect to
>     CUCM version 7?
>     >
>     > - can we use a CUPS RTMT to connect to CUCM or the other way around?
>     >
>     > - Why the different versions of RTMT don't play nice i.e if they
>     detect another
>     > version will not let you install the new version until you get
>     rid of the old
>     > one? Has anyone found a solution to install multiple RTMT from
>     different
>     > products on the same workstation?
>     >
>     > By default RTMT uses different directories but even with
>     different directories
>     > they will not let you install multiple versions:
>     > C:\Program Files\Cisco\Unified Communications Manager
>     Serviceability\ C:\Program
>     > Files\Cisco\Presence Serviceability\JRtmt
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     > Ovidiu
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