[cisco-voip] E1 call Fraud + h.323 Gw

Sun Jan 16 14:46:47 EST 2011

My Customer CEO is a friend of teleco CEO and they had a deal to pay only a part of the bill J

I don’t know what is the case in yours; but a trial will not hurt.

Best Regards,

Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice

From: Jawad A Hai [mailto:ahjawad at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:41 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar; Ki Wi; Nick Matthews
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] E1 call Fraud + h.323 Gw

Ahmed 

One Q.

How did you solved this billing issue with your telco ???

Did you paid it all ??

Or any negotiations worked?

Aali

From: Ahmed Elnagar <mailto:ahmed_elnagar at rayacorp.com>  

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:24 PM

To: Ki Wi <mailto:kiwi.voice at gmail.com>  ; Nick Matthews <mailto:matthnick at gmail.com>  

Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] E1 call Fraud + h.323 Gw

I had a similar problem with a 100K USD bill over 3 months and it is the same problem…never give a voice gateway internet access, also you may consider some access lists, CORs,…etc to prevent this hacking.

Best Regards,

Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697 Voice

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ki Wi
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:41 PM
To: Nick Matthews
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] E1 call Fraud + h.323 Gw

I have this problem recently also with one of the customer who's router is connected to Internet directly. Luckily the telco inform them about it.

When I remote in, it is still happening. They are actually using sip 5060 to make outgoing call. What I did was using acl to block 5060 both tcp and udp. I blocked sccp and h323 as well. All of them I set to log but only seems like it's hitting 5060 only

Sent from my iPhone

Pls pardon my fat fingers.

On Jan 16, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Nick Matthews <matthnick at gmail.com> wrote:

	I have not seen a case of this that was not caused by having an internet reachable router with port 5060 TCP or UDP open.  I have these shut down on my home router and I consistently see scans.  You should always shut down ports TCP/UCP 5060 and TCP 1720 on your router for outside interfaces.  Maybe your NAT is not a PAT also, and it forwards all ports through.  NAT is not inherently a security device, and should not be assumed so.

	This has been addressed in 15.1(2)T through some more specific restrictions as well.

	-nick

	On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Jawad A Hai <ahjawad at hotmail.com> wrote:

	Hello Jason,

	The CME has intenret accessibility, but with Natted IP.

	Its behind firewall, 

	I think we were hacked by those pay phone gangs,

	they have some how scanned the system for the CLID manipulation, once they found the matching four digit DID, they have started sending calls using that DID.

	I traced the calls, they were going to "dial to win " hold your call as long as to win prizes, blah blah.

	I don’t have any call pattern.

	But what amazes with the sophistication of those gangs, it was done deliberately during weekend.

	I see SIP call legs in call logs, I don’t have SIP configured in the CME, but I don’t have in " h.323 to sip and sip to h.323 " conversion in voice service voip.

	Still not sure how was it done, with CLID manipulation.

	Please share any ideas.

	From: Jason Aarons (US) <mailto:jason.aarons at us.didata.com>  

	Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:35 AM

	To: Jawad A Hai <mailto:ahjawad at hotmail.com>  ; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net 

	Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] E1 call Fraud + h.323 Gw

	Hopefully the CME doesn’t have any Internet accessability? It’s behind a firewall right?

	From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai
	Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:21 PM
	To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
	Subject: [cisco-voip] E1 call Fraud + h.323 Gw

	Hello Group,

	Recently I faced a problem with one of my client, who has got E1r2, DID/DOD.

	He has Cisco CME and Cisco Voice Gateway.

	Suddenly all 30 ports got busy with international calls. All the calls are being generated by ONE IP Phone which has got local extension 2000.

	This extension was translated to DID number, so that any call goes out via this number takes the DID and any call comes on this DID will land on this Phone.

	The CME was configured to access via outside with live IP. ie Live IP to Local IP (NAT).

	Now the thing here is all the calls which were generated are international calls, we rebooted the gw, we rebooted the CME it stayed same..once it reboots all 30 ports got busy with international calls.

	calls going to african countries/russian countries( dial codes belongs to these countries).

	When I changed the international dial peer on the CME they stopped.

	But catch here is they have received more than 100 k USD bill from TELCO.  DEAD DEAD Bang Bang.

	What are the chances of toll Fraud or any other way of hacking ?

	OR could it be TELCO side issue?

	Cuz I see mostly calls are being generated by single DID number ??

	Aali

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