[cisco-voip] Moving to SIP

[SouthEastTexasTelecom]

Personally I cant see the need to change from ISDN PRI to SIP anyway.. I
DON'T see the cost savings I would rather had a PRI into a switch for LOCAL
calls/911!!!  and use SIP for on-net and LD calls..(and have the ISDN PRI
for backup!! I JUST DON'T like putting it all in one basket.cut the internet
cord and you are SOL..WHY do people do this??).

 

One small company locally had a Nortel KSU system with 3 analog
trunks...they changed to a NEC VoIP system.but KEPT the analog trunks!!!
DUH!!! WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY!!! They get NOTHING they didn't have with the
Nortel (unless they didn't have the CLID cards in the Nortel.BIG deal.that's
only $150 for the card.) They had CallPilot VM which does everything Cisco's
does..Someone mind explaining this to me???? I took Economics 101 in College
(but I FLUNKED that course..who the hell can learn with one bloodshot eye at
7AM!???!!! Kudos to Lewis Black for that JOKE)

 

I am sorry but VoIP IS NOT the way to go for EVERYTHING..

 

I HAVE added Vonage lines to Nortel KSUs with CallPilot that gave them
unified messaging and free LD..funny, the cost was MUCH LOWER than a new
Cisco system and they have ALL the features..SO someone tell
me.WHY???????????????????? I JUST DON'T get it..(oh you can plug the phone
into the network?? AHHH yeah after you put PoE routers in.there's
capital...and then you change the phones out.more capital..AHHHH AM I
MISSING SOMETHING HERE???? NO!!)

 

YOU DON'T SAVE A DIME GOING TO CISCO VOIP from a TDM box for small/medium
offices.MAYBE enterprise..MAYBE.but I doubt the ROI is worth it.

 

And we wonder why America businesses is sucking, especially in the tech area
as a former leader.DUH!!!!


Chris

Owner, SouthEast Texas Telecom 

(and buying another telecom company for $2million to add to my customer
base; I've been on the rodeo for 36+ years)

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Bill Simon
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:22 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Moving to SIP

 

Someone please explain why the codec needs to change from G.711u to G.729
simply because of a transition from PRI to SIP?

Does AT&T's SIP service not support G.711? Or are you simply trying to
squeeze more channels onto limited bandwidth? (Get more bandwidth.)


On 9/24/11 12:38 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) wrote: 

The larger you are the more advantages.  For small business I agree sticking
with PRI since you can get them dirt cheap.  For example bank with 700
branches can see a 14 month ROI versus fractional PRIs across all those
sites, more mpls bandwidth to branch for video/digital signage, fewer
hardware costs, etc.

 

 

From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:53 AM
To: Jason Aarons (AM)
Cc: Haas, Neal; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Moving to SIP

 

Anyone else have the feeling SIP isn't all it's cracked up to be? In our
case, if you're not already getting Internet service from your your SIP
provider, it's just not that economical. Especially if you have to keep a
PRI around for faxing, modems, alarms, etc. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:51 AM, "Jason Aarons (AM)"
<jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com> wrote:

Yes faxing/modem/postage won't work. Look into separate device pools for
g711 stuff, etc.

 

 

From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, Neal
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 6:27 PM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Moving to SIP

 

 

We are moving to (ATT) SIP from standard PRI's, of course we just realized
that our unity is G711. 

 

Are there any gotchas by just changing the General Configuration to G729a?

 

 

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