[cisco-voip] Geolocation policies for logical partitioning?

[Nate VanMaren]

I just had to come to the realization that the logical partitioning is there as a safeguard from letting things talk that shouldn't.  It has no ability to help route the call in a better way.

So now comes in a lot more dial plan magic.

Thanks for helping me through this.

-Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Pavan K [mailto:pav.ccie at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:19 AM
To: Nate VanMaren
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Geolocation policies for logical partitioning?

Nate,

I would open a configuration assistance case with cisco TAC if you
have a bunch of scenarios that you need to run them by.
Sorry, i am not too familiar with LP

-Pavan



On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Nate VanMaren
<VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org> wrote:
> What I am trying to accomplish is the end phone that is only PSTN access, how do I get it to call the phone at the other site over PSTN, even though it's an internal phone.
>
> I wouldn't be ok to just not be able to conference your boss because he's on the same system.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> -Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pavan K [mailto:pav.ccie at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:26 AM
> To: Nate VanMaren
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Geolocation policies for logical partitioning?
>
> You cant. Thats the whole point of Logical Partitioning.
>
> Think about it this way.
> Each user has 2 phones on his desks. Each connected to a different PBX
> and no trunks are allowed between those two PBX systems.
> One PBX originates/terminates calls from the PSTN only and the second
> is for internal calls only.
>
> Logical partitioning accomplishes the same behavior using geolocations.
> If you need to bridge calls you can creatively use partitions and CSS
> but then you are not following the country restrictions.
>
>
> -Pavan
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Nate VanMaren
> <VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org> wrote:
>> Pavan,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have two sites in Russia, which seems to have restrictions like India
>> about hooking up VoIP to PSTN.  They collaborate with users in Ukraine.
>>
>>
>>
>> We're using full +E.164 numbers, so if user calls a DID at the other site,
>> it will be kept internal.  But I can't figure out how to make the call go
>> external if there is a PSTN leg involved already.
>>
>>
>>
>> AAR would take care of it, but I don't think those features play together.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Nate
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Pavan [mailto:pav.ccie at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:21 AM
>> To: Nate VanMaren
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Geolocation policies for logical partitioning?
>>
>>
>>
>> Nate,
>>
>> What use case are you trying to accomplish using LP ?
>>
>> -Pavan
>>
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 22:53, Nate VanMaren <VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org> wrote:
>>
>> The case studies are getting rid of of the two lines in India.  But no
>> specifics and it talks about all of the stuff that you can't do.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Pavan" <pav.ccie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nate,
>>
>> I believe there are some case studies available on Cisco.com.
>>
>> I believe the way it's implemented is to have two lines with same DN but
>> different geolocation tags. One for external and another for internal calls.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iSnuff
>>
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Nate VanMaren <VanMarenNP at ldschurch.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am needing implement geolocation logical partitioning.  I am getting a
>> basic understanding by reading the docs out there, but I cannot figure out
>> how to make it a good experience for the end users.
>>
>>
>>
>> IP Phone A and B are in different locations, but since they are both
>> "interior" the call is permitted.  So once of the users needs to conference
>> in an outside person, but that is not permitted because the gateway policy,
>> I guess it would be too much to invoke AAR or something to fix that.
>>
>>
>>
>> But the problem is if I start with the external party, then I call the other
>> user, the call will fail, because the gateway is already part of the call.
>> I am assuming that even since the dial plan is setup to keep calls on-net,
>> there isn't even a way to call out and around to the other user.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone out there have experience with Logical partitioning through
>> geolocation polies?
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> - Pavan



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