[cisco-voip] Recovery on timer expiry QSIG

Ryan Ratliff rratliff at cisco.com
Thu Dec 20 15:42:38 EST 2012


In that case you need to ask the PBX why it isn't sending the Connect_Ack for the failing calls.  

Regarding CSCti59648 I'd expect that if you were hitting that you'd see the Connect_Ack in the q931 debug on the router but it would not be backhauled to CUCM properly so you wouldn't see the message in ccm traces.

-Ryan

On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Ahmed Elnagar <ahmed_elnagar at hotmail.com> wrote:

Some of the calls works successfully Ryan “randomly” and I see in the gateway debug the connect ACK received normally.
 
Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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From: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff at cisco.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:26 PM
To: Ahmed Elnagar
Cc: 'Carlo Calabrese'; 'VOIP Group '
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip]RE: Recovery on timer expiry QSIG
 
Whether the connect_ack is required is going to be a byproduct of the PRI protocol selection.  Make sure this matches between the CUCM config and the PBX and you should be good to go.  
 
-Ryan
 
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ahmed Elnagar <ahmed_elnagar at hotmail.com> wrote:
 
I found the issue “but not solved yet” the timer involved is the T313 which by default is 4 secs and waits to have a connect ACK from the PBX side in order not to disconnect the call “although the call works very normally for the first 4 secs”…the PBX is not sending the connect ACK before the 4 secs and that is why the timer expires and its default behavior is to disconnect the call.
 
I have PBX people working on this from their side, but my question is can I disable this timer or at least disable its expiry action “send call disconnect” until they solve this problem from PBX side?
 
Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:44 PM
To: Carlo Calabrese
Cc: 'VOIP Group '
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [Bulk] RE: Recovery on timer expiry QSIG
 
T310 is used between call proceeding and alerting/progress/connect.  Since you are the one sending the call proceeding it's the other side that would trip that timer.  In this case you are the one disconnecting the call so you are expecting some message from the other side that you aren't getting.
 
Since you are using MGCP check ccm traces for the call disconnect to see what exact timer is getting tripped.  That will tell you what to adjust.
 
-Ryan
 
On Dec 20, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Carlo Calabrese <carlo_calabrese2006 at yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I think the default is 10000. I did a cut and paste from my router. I use a 2811.
 
From: Ahmed Elnagar [mailto:ahmed_elnagar at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:30 PM
To: 'Carlo Calabrese'; 'VOIP Group '
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [cisco-voip] Recovery on timer expiry QSIG
 
Thanks a lot, but I think 120000 is the default for this timer, how do you have it showing in the configuration?
 
Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Carlo Calabrese
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:18 AM
To: 'VOIP Group '
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Recovery on timer expiry QSIG
 
Here is what I have been using for my QSIG Connection.  You will see it has the T310 timer in it.
 
int ser 0/0/0:23
no ip address
encapsulation hdlc
isdn switch-type primary-qsig
isdn timer T310 120000
isdn protocol-emulate network
isdn incoming-voice voice
isdn bind-l3 ccm-manager
isdn outgoing ie facility
isdn outgoing ie notify-indicator
isdn outgoing display-ie
no cdp enable
!
 
I have had it running for about 5 years with no problems.
 
Carlo
 
 
From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Elnagar
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:16 PM
To: 'VOIP Group '
Subject: [cisco-voip] Recovery on timer expiry QSIG
 
Hi;
 
I have a PBX connected to CUCM using MGCP QSIG, some random calls “only from PBX to IP Phones” is dropped after 4 or 5 seconds of the start of call to be connected “both parties hear each other”.
 
In debug isdn q931 I got the below
 
Dec 19 12:01:53.820: ISDN Se1/0:15 Q931: RX <- SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x026D
        Sending Complete
        Bearer Capability i = 0x8090A3
                Standard = CCITT
                Transfer Capability = Speech 
                Transfer Mode = Circuit
                Transfer Rate = 64 kbit/s
        Channel ID i = 0xA18382
                Preferred, Channel 2
        Facility i = 0x9FAA068001008201008B0100A1100201010201553008820301B850860101
        Facility i = 0x9FAA068001008201008B0100A117020102020100800F49545353204D656574696E67205220
        Progress Ind i = 0x8183 - Origination address is non-ISDN 
        Calling Party Number i = 0x0181, '55555'
                Plan:ISDN, Type:Unknown
        Called Party Number i = 0xC9, '66666'
                Plan:Private, Type:Subscriber(local)
        User-User i = 0x00FE, 'U', 0x0100, 'Y', 0x0100B00C07, 'I', 0x81, '55555', 0x0F11828C82, 'Name01 ', 0x7F030F81000D05, 'I', 0x81, '30', 0xF2900E10818588, 'Name02'
        Shift to Codeset 4
        Codeset 4 IE 0x31  i = 0x80
Dec 19 12:01:53.828: ISDN Se1/0:15 Q931: TX -> CALL_PROC pd = 8  callref = 0x826D
        Channel ID i = 0xA98382
                Exclusive, Channel 2
Dec 19 12:01:53.828: ISDN Se1/0:15 Q931: TX -> ALERTING pd = 8  callref = 0x826D
        Facility i = 0x9FAA06800100820100A117020101020101800F2A596F6E61732042656C6163686577
        Progress Ind i = 0x8088 - In-band info or appropriate now available
Dec 19 12:01:53.828: ISDN Se1/0:15 Q931: TX -> FACILITY pd = 8  callref = 0x826D
        Facility i = 0x9FAA068001008201008B0100A115020101020114300D0A01000A010280053333303332
Dec 19 12:01:55.444: ISDN Se1/0:15 Q931: TX -> CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x826D
        Facility i = 0x9FAA068001008201008B0100A123020101020116301B0101FFA0168014596F6E61732042656C61636865772D3333303332
        Facility i = 0x9FAA06800100820100A11C0201020201028014596F6E61732042656C61636865772D3333303332
        Connected Number i = 0x0081, '66666'
 
 
Dec 19 12:01:59.456: ISDN Se1/0:15 Q931: TX -> DISCONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x826D
        Cause i = 0x80E6 - Recovery on timer expiry
 
Do you think changing T310 timer will solve this or maybe it is another issue?
 
Regards,
Ahmed Elnagar | Unified Communication Team Leader | CCIE #24697, Voice
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