[cisco-voip] intercluster trunk over IPSec VPN

Mon Feb 13 09:31:14 EST 2012

Hi Wes,

Here is the call statistics from the phone for one call

Rcvr Codec  G729
Sender Codec G729
Rcvr size    20ms
sender size  20ms
Rcvr Packets 476
sender packets 709
Avg Jitter     31
Max Jitter    185
Rcvr discarded 1
Rcvr lost packets 0
Avg MOS LQK   0.0
Min MOS LQK   0.0
Max MOS LQK   0.0
Cumulative Conceal ratio 0.0319
Max Conceal ratio 0.0446
Conceal sec  5
Severly conceal sec 1

Is the jitter too high?

regards,

Abebe

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> I was surprised to find that SLA is not included in the IPBase module of
> v15, nor in the UC module. You need the Data module.
>
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
> "There's no place like 127.0.0.1"
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com> wrote:
>
>  Maybe a good place for some IP SLA monitoring.****
>
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> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Wes Sisk
> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2012 10:36 AM
> *To:* Abebe Amare
> *Cc:* cisco voip
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] intercluster trunk over IPSec VPN****
>
> ** **
>
> most likely still packet throughput issues. packets may be late to the
> point of discarded. they would not technically be lost in that case.****
>
> ** **
>
> this would manifest as high jitter.  setup the initial all and press the
> "i" or "?" button twice on the phone to see call statistics.  beyond that
> take a packet capture.  wireshark has some decent RTP analysis tools built
> in.****
>
> ** **
>
> /wes****
>
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> On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Abebe Amare wrote:****
>
>
> Dears, thank you all for the excellent support
>
> I managed to keep the VPN tunnel up be sending periodic ping but the
> problem still persist. Bandwidth is reserved for at least four calls
> (taking into consideration VPN overhead) on a Packetshaper and the call
> quality is good mid-conversation. But it is is clipping the first few
> seconds. I dont see any packet loss n the CMR records for a test call. What
> should I be looking for?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> Abebe
>
>
> ****
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Wes Sisk <wsisk at cisco.com> wrote:****
>
> TCP keepalives are only used while a call is active.****
>
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>
> When no call is active there is no active h323/h225/h245 signaling, tcp
> session, or udp.  The only exception is when gatekeeper is used. Then gk
> registration messages are maintained.  Those are over UDP between the h323
> ep and gk.****
>
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> for a static ICT defined between two CUCM clusters there is no network
> activity without an active call.****
>
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>
> For the duration of an active call the tcp keepalive parameter will help.*
> ***
>
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>
> regards,****
>
> wes****
>
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> On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) wrote:****
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>
> Options Ping was added in 8.5(1).
>
> The parameter "Allow TCP KeepAlives For H323 " should take care of this
> for H323 ICT.
>
> -Adam
>
> ****
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Abebe Amare <abucho at gmail.com> <abucho at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thu, Feb 09, 2012 4:52:50 AM
> *To:* Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> <rratliff at cisco.com>
> *CC:* cisco voip <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net> <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] intercluster trunk over IPSec VPN
>
>
> ****
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> The CUCM version is 6.1.3.1000-16. Is the SIP options ping parameter
> available in this version? Where would you enable it if it is available?
>
> thanks in Advance,
>
> Abebe****
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Ryan Ratliff <rratliff at cisco.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> What about a SIP trunk with options ping enabled? ****
>
> ** **
>
> -Ryan****
>
> ** **
>
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Abebe Amare wrote:****
>
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> Configuring a persistent L2L tunnel proved to be very elusive. I settled
> for running a periodic ping scheduled to keep the tunnel running.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Abebe****
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> I think you answered your own question. IPSEC tunnel’s take time to bring
> up. Maybe you could tweak some of the VPN negotiating parameters, or create
> a separate L2 tunnel profile/group just for your voice that is permanent
> and does not have an inactivity timer.****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Dennis Heim
> Senior Engineer (Unified Communications)
> CDW  Advanced Technology Services
> 10610 9th Place
> Bellevue, WA 98004
>
> 425.310.5299 Single Number Reach (WA)****
>
> 317.569.4255 Single Number Reach (IN)
> 317.569.4201 Fax
> dennis.heim at cdw.com*
> *cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/<http://www.cdw.com/content/solutions/unified-communications/>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Abebe Amare
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:10 AM
> *To:* cisco voip
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] intercluster trunk over IPSec VPN****
>
>  ****
>
> Dears,
>
> I have configured an Inter-Cluster trunk from CUCM to another site with
> CUCME. There is an IPSec L2L VPN terminating at ASA 5500 firewall on both
> ends
>
> CUCM --->ASA 5540--->Internet <---ASA 5510<---CUCME
>
> On the ASA,the IPSec tunnel is terminated after 30 minute of inactivity
> (default) which is causing a problem. When a phone in one site tries to
> call another phone in the other site there is a noticeable gap before
> actual conversation is heard over the phone. Once conversation starts,
> there is no delay or break in audio. Has anyone faced this issue?
>
> best regards,
>
> Abebe****
>
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