[cisco-voip] upgrade path question

[Erick Wellnitz]

There seems to have been a lapse of planning on Cisco's part especially
when moving from physical hardware to VMWare.  They are pusing people
toward VMWare but don't give us a decent upgrade path to get there.



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Ki Wi <kiwi.voice at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Beck,
> Do you have 7.1.4 something ? Can you try that? Hope you have took some
> snapshot along the way.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Pls pardon my fat fingers.
>
> On 3 May, 2012, at 10:22 PM, "Beck, Andre" <cisco-voip at ibh.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ki Wi,
> >
> > I'm currently trying to do something similar, coming from 6.1(2).
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:36:25AM +0800, Ki Wi wrote:
> >> It is working. Just make sure you don't start the CM services till you
> are at the final version with actual license file.
> >
> > I've tried that:
> >
> > * Establish VM with same MAC as the original Publisher
> > * Install 6.1(2) and restore Pub from DRF backup
> > --> Here I have a fully working (and licensed) copy of the Pub running
> > * Upgrade to 6.1.4.2190-3 as 6.1(2) is mostly a dead end for upgrades
> > --> Still a licensed and working Pub
> > * Now disable all services that can be disabled, install
> >  ciscocm.refresh_upgrade_v1.1.cop, then upgrade to 7.1.5.33900-10.
> >
> > After that step, all services are still deactivated. But the next step
> > of upgrading to 8.6(2a) is made impossible by the silly
> >
> > Upgrades are prohibited during Licensing Grace Period.
> >
> > problem. I hoped you found a way around that (in not starting services),
> > but either I pulled it off wrongly, or it doesn't always work. Must I
> > make sure they never run once after DRF import? Or maybe things are
> > different when coming from DMA then they are when coming from DRF...
> >
> >> I have done upgrade from 3.x to 8.0 or 8.5 in VMware environment. A
> couple of upgrade before I can do DMA. A couple of upgrade before I can hit
> 8.x since DMA don't go 8.x directly.
> >
> > That sounds extremly interesting. I'd like to know which versions you
> used
> > exactly, as this seems to make a difference more often than not. For
> > instance, I'm trying to hop via 7.1.5 mainly because going from 6.1.x
> > to 8.x doesn't seem to work in a VM, it's always ending with a hardware
> > platform unsupported bailout (seemingly due to wrong detection of disk
> > size).
> >
> >> Unsupported method but definitely it's working.
> >
> > Sometimes you have no other way to upgrade. Cisco seems to think that you
> > should have a complete lab copy of your production hardware or even do
> > your upgrades in the production environment. Even the swing server method
> > is unnecessarily complicated by the prevention of upgrades in license
> > grace period. I'm getting the feeling that they don't think a lot about
> > the people who actually have to maintain those installations. Reading
> >
> http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Licensing_Model_for_Virtualized_UC_Applications
> > almost made me cry. Now you have to relicense when your SMTP server
> changes
> > name? My Goodness...
> >
> > TIA,
> > Andre.
> > --
> >                    Cool .signatures are so 90s...
> >
> > -> Andre Beck    +++ ABP-RIPE +++      IBH IT-Service GmbH, Dresden <-
>
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