[cisco-voip] Cisco Voice AND M$ Lync

[Brent Pollock]

I have made the suggestion to introduce Jabber as a supplement IM product
with added benefit of voice integration. I get the feeling that this will
result in an intra-domain federation with the current Lync environment. I
know that the Intra-domain federation exist but I have yet to see anyone
suggest it.


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>wrote:

> My experience with the integration is with the audio portions.
>
> First and foremost, you must use CUBE to integrate CUCM with Lync due to
> Microsoft's "standards" based SIP implementation.  Microsoft, as usual, put
> their own spin on the SIP standards which makes the integration flaky at
> best and the CUBE can do manipulations a direct SIP trunk cannot.  I had
> QoS configured but still had issues with voice quality when using Lync
> conferencing via CUCM.  The last issue I encountered was Lync's logging
> features.  The logs would never point to a problem and the logs were
> enormous.
>
> Remember as well that Lync is all software...and is on Windows.  It also
> took us forever to get the edge servers working properly for external use.
> We had three different Premier field engineers on site and got different
> answers from each as to what we needed to change.  All said, the basic
> functins wored well but the "UC" functions never quite worked right with
> Lync.
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Brent Pollock <hashtagvoip at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Any issues as a result of SIP integration documented? I have been making
>> this arguement for about 6 months. We have an extensive Cisco VoIP
>> infrastructure and a Lync system support a subset of users for IM only. The
>> lync system is also "federated" with a group of users we have in office
>> 365. There have been fears that the integration to office in the cloud will
>> suffer as a result of the replacement of messenger with skype. Instead of
>> going with my initial instinct and negatively speak on Lync, I have decided
>> to take a positive approach and present the positives of both products. I
>> will also be making it clear the limitation that are presented by
>> attempting a presence integration to Lync for phone status.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I did on my last project.  It was an easy sell for Jabber on the
>>> technical front thanks to the Cisco account team.  My problem was that a
>>> prior employee promised the executives the moon, stars, planets, comets,
>>> nebula and pulsars with Lync so that investment had already been made.
>>>
>>> Your account team should be able to get you a feature comparison.
>>>
>>> If someone tries to get you to integrate Lync and CUCM via SIP...run
>>> away!  It is a nightmare.
>>>  On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Brent Pollock <hashtagvoip at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Anyone out there fight the Lync vs Jabber battle? Currently working
>>>> on a presentation on features of both as well as what can be delivered
>>>> using both. Anyone care to share suggestions or reference material?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
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