[cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1

Lelio Fulgenzi lelio at uoguelph.ca
Mon Jan 20 19:14:34 EST 2014 

If that's the case, I'll have to install a CUCM instance that's basically turned off (or not used) just running the licensing manager. Hopefully, they'll have a small OVO for 500 users or something. 

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On 2014-01-20, at 6:59 PM, Tim Smith <tim.smith at enject.com.au> wrote:

> Oh yeah I see what you mean.
> Just because it’s installed on that CUCM, doesn’t mean it’s linked only to that CUCM.
> It’s just the platform it lives on, but it’s a separate app.
> So yeah you can add multiple clusters and manage from the same.
>  
> CWMS would be good too!
>  
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Tim
>  
>  
> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 10:51 AM
> To: Tim Smith
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; Jeremy Bresley
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1
>  
> My biggest issue is the N-1 redundancy. I'm hoping that there will be enough of this, to allow me to upgrade ELM (or whatever it's going to be called) so I can upgrade one cluster from x to y and still use the same ELM host so I can share licenses. It's a really, really good idea, license pooling as they called it in Unity, to have. If they can add the router based voip licenses, that would be ideal. :)
> 
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> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
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> From: "Tim Smith" <tim.smith at enject.com.au>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net, "Jeremy Bresley" <brez at brezworks.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 6:23:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1
> 
> Yep! In fairness though, I’ve done all my 9 installs as co-res anyway. It seemed to be a bit of a waste of resources to have it separate.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Tim.
>  
> From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 10:21 AM
> To: Tim Smith
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net; Jeremy Bresley
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1
>  
> what? this is nuts. another name change after only one iteration, and now they're telling me i can't install it as a standalone box? ugh.
> 
> Cisco Prime License Manager
> 
> As of Release 10.0(1),Cisco Prime License Manager replaces Enterprise License Manager.Cisco Prime License Manager provides simplified, enterprise-wide management of user-based licensing, including license fulfillment. Cisco Prime License Manager handles licensing fulfillment, supports allocation and reconciliation of licenses across supported products, and provides enterprise-level reporting of usage and entitlement. 
> 
> Important: Cisco Prime License Manager is not installable as a standalone option from the Unified Communications operating system ISO. Co-resident installation from the Unified Communications operating system ISO is still an option. 
> 
> You have the ability to define how to manage licensing of your enterprise. You can have one Cisco Prime License Manager for the entire enterprise, or you can have several Cisco Prime License Managers and divide the enterprise in a manner that best suits your needs.
>  
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> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
> University of Guelph
> 
> 519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354
> lelio at uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
>  
> From: "Tim Smith" <tim.smith at enject.com.au>
> To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>, "Jeremy Bresley" <brez at brezworks.com>
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 6:05:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1
> 
> Hey guys,
>  
> The release notes, whats new etc are posted on CCO now.
> It’s all here - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/docguide/10_0_1/CUCM_BK_C08E97F6_00_cucm-doc-guide-1001.html
>  
> My favourites..
> -          CSS Inheritance for translation patterns – handy for tidying up the dial plan
> -          Feature group template support for user synced from directory – automatically set some config to users as they are imported
> -          Plug and play – auto config of auto reg phones (including IVR)
> -          Universal line templates
>  
> I love all the automatic provisioning stuff, I think this is where it is at.
> Self-care is alright, but I think the initial config should just be automatic
>  
> On the .0 stuff..
> Even minor changes make room for bugs and issues. I wouldn’t necessarily avoid the .0 release all together. But I’d give it a few SU’s.
> Although for BE6k, and small greenfield sites, I think some of the new features might make it worth the risk.
> I got caught out with two deferrals for CWMS 1.5 MR1 and MR2 recently. They were just maintenance releases.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Tim
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:08 AM
> To: Jeremy Bresley
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1
>  
> Thanks Jeremy!
> 
> Lelio
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
> University of Guelph
> 
> 519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354
> lelio at uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
>  
> From: "Jeremy Bresley" <brez at brezworks.com>
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 1:42:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.6 to 9.1
> 
> On 1/20/2014 9:22 AM, Stephen Welsh wrote:
> Hi Lelio,
>  
> I believe the provisioning improvement you are referring too is the ability for end users to ‘self-provision’. My understanding it enables end users to setup a fresh phone on their desk as part of an initial deployment etc. basically a replacement for TAPS. They login to their phone using their UCM User details (aka AD user if integrated) and a pre-loaded profile is deployed to the phone.
>  
> ASAIK it’s a phone firmware level feature that as long as the phone is on the desired software level it uses the new User Data Service (UDS) API to authenticate and configure the device.
>  
> Personally I’m keen to see how this feature is implemented, i.e. will the user have to login twice if extension mobility is enabled ;)
>  
> Kind Regards.
> 
> Stephen Welsh
>  
> 
> The provisioning improvement in 10.0 is a single-cluster version of Cisco Prime Collaboration Provisioning.
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/prod/collateral/netmgtsw/ps6491/ps12363/data_sheet_c78-729645.html
> 
> We're still in the roll-out stages of the stand-alone product, and are looking at it more for allowing remote IT people to be able to provision and do MACD work on phones without having to have CUCM/UConn expertise.  Not sure what features are missing between the full-blown product and the integrated one in 10.0 however.  One of the weekly Cisco Prime Demo's covered it a few weeks ago.  http://bit.ly/PrimeDemo  probably would be a good place to attend and ask questions about it.
> 
> Jeremy "TheBrez" Bresley
> brez at brezworks.com
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