[cisco-voip] CUCM 7x with ACME SBC

[Anthony Holloway]

Matt,

I'd like to point out three things in response to your comment:

   - LUA scripting support recently moved to:
      -
      https://communities.cisco.com/community/developer/collaboration/call-control/uc-manager-sip

      - Cisco themselves, plus highly qualified non-Cisco people, just like
   this mailing list, provide support on that forum.
      - Shout out to Mark
Stover<https://communities.cisco.com/people/mstover> who
      is a top contributor on LUA scripting support and all around
excellent SIP
      resource

      - A distributed support model has many benefits: free, crowd sourced
   solutions and diverse problem exposure; to name three
      - Shout out to the excellent cisco-voip members and Cisco
      Support/Communities contributors

Therefore, it is my opinion, that Cisco not supporting LUA scripting via
TAC, as does ACME, is not a bad thing, rather, we have a large support
community of Cisco technical resources and non-Cisco technical resources to
call upon and ask for guidance.  And it works quite well.

Is LUA the hot topic on any given Cisco forum?  No, I'll admit that.  But,
it's also very new to CUCM and to UC Engineers.  If we shy away from using
LUA because of its lack of official TAC support, then we'll never gain the
exposure and knowledge required, to have our support communities flourish.

For reference, I have used LUA once to solve a VCS to VzB outbound calling
issue where the SDP was too large (If I recall it was over 1200 bytes).
 Call flow was:  VCS ---SIP--> CUCM ---SIP---> SBC ---SIP---> VzB

I chose to solve it at the CUCM level because I had LUA there to help me.
 Had Cisco simply said "Why give them the option of LUA if we cannot
officially support it?"  Then I would have had a no choice, and my solution
may have never worked.  I appreciate that it's there and don't look
negatively on the feature because of the lack of official TAC support.

Disclaimer: I may have been standing on a soap box when I typed this, but I
have returned to slouching in my computer chair.

Respectfully,


On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Matt Slaga (AM) <
matt.slaga at dimensiondata.com> wrote:

> And, ACME actually supports their LUA scripting through their TAC center.
> Cisco passes you off to DevNet.
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> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Mark Holloway
> *Sent:* Monday, May 5, 2014 3:35 PM
> *To:* Tim Smith
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> *Cc:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net)
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7x with ACME SBC
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> The Acme Packet SBC has a very advanced SIP Header Manipulation regex
> based language. It also supports LUA. You can write “plugins” for the SBC
> using LUA to extend it’s functionality. Pretty cool for an edge appliance!
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> On May 5, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Tim Smith <tim.smith at enject.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi guys,
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> I love this combo.
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> They work really well together and both products have great capability for
> normalisation HMR on Acme, LUA on CUCM.
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> Acme HA is fantastic.
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> Virtual option is great.
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> Acme docco is comprehensive and quite plentiful!
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> Jason - I’ve unicasted you some info on one of my deployments.
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> Cheers,
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> Tim.
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> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net<cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>
> ] *On Behalf Of *Holloway Mark
> *Sent:* Saturday, 19 April 2014 5:51 AM
> *To:* Jason Aarons (AM)
> *Cc:* cisco-voip (cisco-voip at puck.nether.net)
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7x with ACME SBC
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> There are Acme guides for CUCM up through 9.x.  Acme is the only non-Cisco
> SBC blessed by Cisco for CUCM, CVP, UCCE. They’ve even blessed it as a CUSP
> replacement as it can fill both CUBE/CUSP requirements in CVP/UCCE
> environments on one box. Much of it had to do with customer frustration of
> ISR scalability as well as Acme’s High Availability being much more robust
> and resilient. Anyone interested please email me offline.
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> On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Jason Aarons (AM) <
> jason.aarons at dimensiondata.com> wrote:
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> I haven’t seen any kind of integration guide on Cisco.com<http://cisco.com/>
>  with a ACME SBC.   I can’t imagine Cisco would create one since it would
> compete with their CUBE product.
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> Looking on Oracle.com <http://oracle.com/> to see if they have anything.
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> Lastly I think the customer should upgrade from CUCM 7x to at least 8.5
> for SIP Trunks.  Anyone dis-agree?
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