[cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs

[Ryan Huff]

Generally when Cisco does this, the previous credential is retired and you cannot get new certs in the previous credential after the retire date, only the new credential can be attained at that point.

For those with a valid previous credential, they remain valid so long as the practitioner keeps up with a valid recertification process (via other tests).

If the recertification period lapses, then the previous credential expires and is not recoverable and the practitioner would have to undergo the new credential certification process (in completeness).

Often, you'll see practitioners keep the previous credential through recertification and attain the new credential, to have "dual" of something. You can also take a (usually smaller) migration path and just upgrade the credential you have into the new credential.

Thanks,

Ryan

-------- Original Message --------
From: Zoltan.Kelemen at Emerson.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 03:35 AM
To: ryanhuff at outlook.com,ben.story at gmail.com,wokka at justfamily.org
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
CC: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net

>They are just retiring, not actually *invalidating* CCNP Voice, right?
>
>I mean all of our CCNP Voice certificates won't go up in a puff of smoke once CCNP Collab comes out. Only that no new CCNP Voice certs would be awarded after a yet to be announced date (or has it been announced already? Anyway)
>
>Since I've just got mine, I don't think I'll be in any rush to update to Collaboration, especially not until at least some valuable training materials are out . From my experience, I wouldn't rely on classroom training alone. So far none of the "official cisco training classes" I've attended covered *all* of the exam material.  And there's barely a synopsis for CIPTV2 out so far.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Zoltan Kelemen
>Global Communications and Information Security
>Implementation Engineering
>Emerson
>
>From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Huff
>Sent: 17 February 2015 19:58
>To: Ben Story; Charles Goldsmith
>Cc: voip puck
>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
>
>What gets me is that a CCNP Voice needs one test to upgrade to CCNP Collaboration (http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/tools/ccnp_collab/ccnp_collab_tool.html).
>
>Really? Only one test's worth of info is what changes between Voice and Collaboration?
>
>If you are going to retire and invalidate a credential and move to another tract altogether, then it should be a top-down revamp, not just one test of a few new questions about video.
>
>This feels like it is nothing more than re branding/marketing; and I shouldn't have to pay for that.
>
>My grumpy two cents,
>
>Ryan
>
>________________________________
>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:10:24 -0600
>From: ben.story at gmail.com<mailto:ben.story at gmail.com>
>To: wokka at justfamily.org<mailto:wokka at justfamily.org>
>CC: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CCNA/CCNP Collaboration certs
>Is it just me or does it seem weird for a CCNA level to now require two tests.  Money grab?
>
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>On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org<mailto:wokka at justfamily.org>> wrote:
>https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/ccna-ccnp-collaboration
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