[cisco-voip] Expressway Design for new startup

Brian Meade bmeade90 at vt.edu
Tue Jun 7 09:22:24 EDT 2016


I don't see any reason 3 Expressway pairs and device mobility won't work as
you described.  I don't think I've seen any RTT requirements between CUCM
and Expressway Core.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Ki Wi <kiwi.voice at gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys,
> any comment? Ideally going spark is the best but the lack of voice
> gateways/ direct sip trunk support seems to force us back to hybrid model?
>
> Regards,
> Ki Wi
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Ki Wi <kiwi.voice at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>> you are right regarding the phone registration on Spark directly.
>> However, for the voice gateway connectivity for voice countries, looks like
>> we will have to go via Hybrid method. :(
>>
>> If that's the case + customer have MPLS today. I will prefer to have the
>> voice traffic over MPLS. At least we can tell them that when using
>> deskphone, quality is guarantee.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ki Wi
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:12 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2 at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I don't believe that's the case. According to Cisco, you register the
>>> phones directly to Spark. Check out
>>> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/unified-communications/hosted-collaboration-solution-hcs/datasheet-c78-736823.html#_Toc444123188
>>> .
>>>
>>> This could eliminate the need for a UCM at all as well as voice gateways
>>> if I understand it correctly.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Ki Wi <kiwi.voice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi James,
>>>> It definitely make more sense. However, if this is to go to spark, I
>>>> will need similar equipment upfront as well.
>>>>
>>>> First create a UCM cluster.
>>>> Establish hybrid spark connectivity (this requires additional
>>>> expressway C instance for host connector stuff on top of expressway C&E
>>>> pair)
>>>>
>>>> Since I have 3 locations with voice gateways, it make sense to have 3
>>>> expressway (C&E) at least? If not, I can imagine that when I'm in US
>>>> calling someone US, the spark will connect to the UCM cluster located in
>>>> SG via that only expressway located in SG. The voice quality will be very
>>>> bad due to latency. The PSTN option directly via spark is very limited
>>>> currently.
>>>>
>>>> The setup is more or less the same eventually. Most likely we might be
>>>> able to save on CUWL license cost if those roaming users doesn't need a
>>>> phone profile in CUCM?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:16 PM, James Buchanan <
>>>> james.buchanan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if a cloud-based solution such as Spark wouldn't make more
>>>>> sense than implementing an on-premise system.
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Ki Wi <kiwi.voice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>>> I have this customer requirement where they have 3 locations
>>>>>> (Singapore, US and UK) . Majority of their users will be on the move
>>>>>> (around the world). Users have to connect to the phone system via Internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The intention is to have the UCM cluster in Singapore and have the
>>>>>> expressway C/E pair in all the 3 locations mentioned. With the help of
>>>>>> GeoDNS solution, the jabber shall be able to look for the nearest
>>>>>> expressway to connect to. Optimize resource assignment (ie.
>>>>>> CFB/xcoder) nearest to them shall be taken care of by configuring device
>>>>>> mobility related profiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will this work? Since they have small amount of users, having
>>>>>> multiple clusters might not make sense and the users will be roaming across
>>>>>> cluster often + I don't see any benefits by doing so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ki Wi
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ki Wi
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Ki Wi
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