[cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator

Tue Feb 28 16:55:22 EST 2017

Yea, have to stick to the exact search rule they give you for it to not
consume RMS licensing.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:

> The caveat to the free license, even in version 8.9 I believe, is that if
> you do any sort of transform on the expressway (such as using a abbreviated
> dial pattern in call manager and then transforming it into the appropriate
> WebEx suffix domain in expressway C) does consume a RMS license.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan
>
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> Yea, CMR is included with WebEx if you do annual subscription I believe.
> Also they changed licensing in Expressway so that CMR calls do not use RMS
> licensing.  So now you only need RMS licensing for B2B calls.  SMP and PMP
> licensing are now coming with RMS licensing so not many people will be
> ordering RMS individually.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Ben Amick <bamick at humanarc.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, cool. I never saw that change announced. So they did away with
>> licensing for MRA and CMR, so RMS licensing is essentially just for B2B
>> video calls again?
>>
>> Ben Amick
>> Telecom Analyst
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>> MRA is free now so just need to request the Expressway licensing through
>> PUT.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Ben Amick <bamick at humanarc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> MRA is Mobile and Remote Access – a fancy word for a procedure that
>>> enables Jabber and other specific phones to be used remotely without a VPN
>>> by tunneling through the Expressway product, requiring separate licensing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Ben Amick*
>>>
>>> Telecom Analyst
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Matthew Huff [mailto:mhuff at ox.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:13 PM
>>> *To:* Brian Meade <bmeade90 at vt.edu>; Ben Amick <bamick at HumanArc.com>
>>> *Cc:* Cisco VOIP <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so, I’ve been until recently a CME admin, now I’m doing CUCM, so….
>>> What’s MRA?
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* bmeade90 at gmail.com [mailto:bmeade90 at gmail.com
>>> <bmeade90 at gmail.com>] *On Behalf Of *Brian Meade
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:11 PM
>>> *To:* Ben Amick <bamick at humanarc.com>
>>> *Cc:* Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com>; Cisco VOIP <
>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, they do support SSL VPN and MRA although MRA has a smaller
>>> featureset.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Ben Amick <bamick at humanarc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm fairly certain both the 7800 and 8800 phones support Cisco VPN, and
>>> I think they also support expressway over MRA. Could be wrong, but I
>>> vaguely recall that.
>>>
>>> Ben Amick
>>>
>>> Telecom Analyst
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We use SCCP SecureVPN phones now for remote access for SOHO users. We
>>> would like to use newer SIP phones, but so far, I haven’t seen a solution
>>> for the 88xx phones. We also need multiple lines, shared lines, hunt
>>> groups, etc… As far as I know ExpressWay is only for Jabber clients, does
>>> anyone know of a solution for Cisco 88xx phones secure remote access?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Matthew Huff             | 1 Manhattanville Rd
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>>>
>>> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net
>>> <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Ben Amick
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:54 PM
>>> *To:* Charles Goldsmith <wokka at justfamily.org>; Heim, Dennis <
>>> Dennis.Heim at wwt.com>
>>> *Cc:* Cisco VOIP <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll raise my hand as one of those contact centers. Right now it’s
>>> because of the two reasons I mentioned in a parallel chain: a need for
>>> multiple lines and the BIB for QM recording. The former is on the roadmap
>>> for jabber (with no ETA), but the latter as far as I’m aware still isn’t a
>>> part of Jabber.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Ben Amick*
>>>
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>>> *From:* Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wokka at justfamily.org
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>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:49 PM
>>> *To:* Heim, Dennis <Dennis.Heim at wwt.com>
>>> *Cc:* Ben Amick <bamick at HumanArc.com>; Cisco VOIP <
>>> cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There have been a few updates to CIPC in the last couple of years, but I
>>> haven't read the release notes as to what, so someone has been spending a
>>> bit of time on the code.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen a lot of contact centers use CIPC, I don't see it going away
>>> soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Heim, Dennis <Dennis.Heim at wwt.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My understanding is that the answer is “No,” to updated IP
>>> communicator.  I am also not sure of the true commitment to multi-line
>>> Jabber support. I have yet to see any dates around multi-line Jabber at
>>> this point, which my experience with Cisco say’s don’t count on it or
>>> expect it.
>>>
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>>> *To:* Cisco VOIP <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>>> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] Curiosity: New IP Communicator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m assuming no on this question, based on the fact that I haven’t heard
>>> even an inkling, and I know they’re working on multi-line support for
>>> Jabber, but I was wondering: Has anyone heard anything about them possibly
>>> coming up with a new IP communicator that is based on the 8800 series code?
>>> I think that’d be great, and even better if they made it based on 8845
>>> code, so it could use video as well, short of getting everyone to use
>>> jabber.
>>>
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