[cisco-voip] firmware COP files - TFTP server only? or all nodes?

[Lelio Fulgenzi]

Oh! I like those ideas too!

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] firmware COP files - TFTP server only? or all nodes?
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>>
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I like to save the page as HTML or just export the Device Defaults using BAT->Import/Export.  Nice thing with BAT is you can just import right after finishing the firmware install on the publisher.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Thanks Dave. All good points.

I just wish that the device defaults page would actually show the WHOLE firmware information rather than me having to click on the box and press “end” key to see it. Sometimes, those last two characters are the most important.

That being said, what I typically do is use an auto-scroll capture tool, e.g. FastStone Capture, to scroll and capture the page to an image based PDF.
Then I go to each box that pertains to my deployment and click the end key, then capture again.

The things we have to do.:(

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From: Dave Goodwin [mailto:dave.goodwin at december.net<mailto:dave.goodwin at december.net>]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] firmware COP files - TFTP server only? or all nodes?

In some cases the device definitions (e.g. support for new model or new product specific configuration settings) need to be updated. I believe that is another reason that *some* devpacks need to be installed on all nodes rather than just TFTP nodes.

If you are concerned about the Device Defaults being updated when you install the devpack on the publisher (a good thing to be thinking about), one thing you could consider doing is as follows. Prior to doing anything, take a snip of the Device Defaults and then stop Cisco TFTP on the TFTP nodes (or de-activate under Service Activation, since these installs sometimes call for a reboot in the docs). Then after your devpack install is complete, go to Device Defaults and change anything back to the pre-devpack state if that is your wish. Then you can start up Cisco TFTP again. After that, you may wish to initiate an all-devices restart by hand or through BAT. Especially if any of the devpack updates affects your existing devices.

Just keep in mind, sometimes the product specific configuration updates that are provided with devpacks actually require new device firmware to be installed. So you could get into a state where you try to configure something in UCM with a setting in there, but you can't make the config take effect if you prevent the phone from actually updating to a firmware version that recognizes the new setting flag.

-Dave

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com<mailto:ryanhuff at outlook.com>> wrote:
The only reason I add to all nodes for firmware (versus just tftp) is because and in case, you decide to change how the nodes are used or function in the cluster at some point; then you don't have to worry about what is or is not on the node; just activate the service and go :).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Sep 11, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
This was my understanding from the last couple of times. We don’t have any alternate TFTP servers so they just attempt to grab it from the one server.

I don’t even like adding it to the publisher since it updates the device defaults page. And we want to do that in a controlled way.

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] firmware COP files - TFTP server only? or all nodes?

That's correct.  If you don't install the COP file on the publisher, you'll need to manually update the Device Defaults as well.  Otherwise, you just need this on servers running the TFTP service.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Just checking the documentation for COP files for firmware and it says to install to all nodes.

I recalled that if the COP file was just for firmware, we only needed to install it on the TFTP server.

It's only the devpaks that need to be installed on all nodes since they may likely make database changes.

Thoughts?

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