[cisco-voip] session target dns

[Ed Leatherman]

Thanks Ryan

 (but who really knows when it comes to IOS bugs). +1



Here is the bug condition:
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> *Upon start-up/reboot the DNS process doesn't initiate a query till around
> 18 minutes after the boot up. This long delay results in hostname
> configured features (ex:NTP servers) not being used till this process is
> complete. Even when doing this time the DNS server is reachable.*
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> Thanks,
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> Ryan
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> *From: *Ed Leatherman <ealeatherman at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:31 AM
> *To: *Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *Cisco VOIP <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] session target dns
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> Thanks Anthony, That was spot on what I was trying to figure out. I've
> been using server-groups up until now (and will continue on the CUCM facing
> side), the service provider is forcing the change on the side facing them.
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> Loren: That's an interesting idea to lock in the host resolution on the
> CUBE itself, but in this case I think it might set me up for an outage if
> the service provider changes their IP Addressing. Maybe I can get them to
> commit to telling me before they change those..
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> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Loren,
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> Just out of curiosity, why didn't you just use session server groups?
> Based on the config you shared, it looks like it would achieve the same
> thing, but with less config, and not adding in the DNS stack within IOS.
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> Ed,
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> *Note, you cannot use DNS in server groups, so it's one or the other.
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> I also think it's important to know that the IOS code is written such that
> it will look for SRV records first, and then fallback to looking for an A
> (host) record once the DNS timeouts.
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> E.g.,
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> You enter "session target dns:collab.domain.com"
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> IOS looks for _sip._udp.collab.domain.com SRV record first, timesout,
> then looks for collab.domain.com host record second.
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> *Note that the outgoing session transport on IOS is UDP by default, unless
> you change it to TCP with the command "session transport tcp" at the "voice
> service voip" level, or at the dial-peer level.  So, having a _sip._tcp SRV
> record on your CUBE would create a confusing scenario.  Contrast this with
> the incoming connection, which can be either.  However, SRV records, like
> Loren is showing, are for outbound connection establishments.
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> I have not done an extensive amount of testing here, but I would be
> curious to know if IOS handles the TTL for the DNS record correctly, or if
> it queries DNS for every setup like how that one defect was hitting CUCM
> SIP trunks for a while there.  I looked for "TTL" in the CVP Config guide,
> but it didn't say.
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> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:19 AM Loren Hillukka <lchillukka at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> You can have your gw query your DNS server, and you have to add SRV
> records to your central DNS server (like with the jabber entries required
> to get jabber sign-in to work).
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> Here’s the example of doing local DNS to static entries on the gateway
> itself, from the CVP 10 config guide.  CVP is where I first started doing
> dns srv on the local gateway, as I preferred breaking the call center
> myself instead of having the AD/DNS teams do it for me without me knowing
> ;-)
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> ===========
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> You can also configure the Gateway statically instead of using DNS. The
> following example shows how both the A and SRV type records could be
> configured:
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> ip host cvp4cc2.cisco.com 10.4.33.132
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> ip host cvp4cc3.cisco.com 10.4.33.133
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> ip host cvp4cc1.cisco.com 10.4.33.131
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> For SIP/TCP:
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> ip host _sip._tcp.cvp.cisco.com srv 50 50 5060cvp4cc3.cisco.com
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> ip host _sip._tcp.cvp.cisco.com srv 50 50 5060cvp4cc2.cisco.com
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> ip host _sip._tcp.cvp.cisco.com srv 50 50 5060cvp4cc1.cisco.com
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> For SIP/UDP:
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> ip host _sip._udp.cvp.cisco.com srv 50 50 5060cvp4cc3.cisco.com
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> ip host _sip._udp.cvp.cisco.com srv 50 50 5060cvp4cc2.cisco.com
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> ip host _sip._udp.cvp.cisco.com srv 50 50 5060cvp4cc1.cisco.com
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>  ============
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> Then your dial-peer would have session target dns:cvp.cisco.com which
> would point to the SRV record, which would use the weight/priority values
> to choose the final host, and resolve the selected host to an IP using the
> normal "ip host name x.x.x.x" entry
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> Loren
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> On Mar 5, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Ed Leatherman <ealeatherman at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
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> Hopefully a quick question - in a dial-peer on CUBE (16.3.5) how does
> session target dns: resolve to an IP? I've never used DNS as target before
> for this.
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> Does CUBE just do a query for the A record by default, or does it do a SRV
> query by default? I have a SIP provider that wants to start using SRV for
> their SBC(s) and I'm researching how to setup my end in IOS. If it doesn't
> query SRV default, where do I toggle that behavior?
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> The command reference just says  "Configures the host device housing the
> domain name system (DNS) server that resolves the name of the dial peer to
> receive calls."
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> I've found the knob to tell it what SRV format to use in the sip-ua
> section.
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> Thanks!
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