[cisco-voip] refining dial peers for Fax

Brian Meade bmeade90 at vt.edu
Tue May 8 13:48:25 EDT 2018


I like to limit down to 9600.  That seems to work out much better.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Anthony Holloway <
avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:

> What's the explanation for setting the fax machine itself to 14400, or the
> dial-peer for that matter, when for the most part SG3 is not supported, and
> SG3 gets spoofed down to G3, and the command "fax rate voice", which is the
> default, already caps at 14400?
>
> I might have explained that poorly, but basically, I see 14400 speeds all
> the time, and I don't change the fax rate command nor set the speed on the
> machine.
>
> I'm not challenging what you're saying, just trying to understand it.  Fax
> has been a pain for me, just like everyone else, so the more I know, the
> better I can deal with it.
>
> I do like to avoid unnecessary config when possible, but in this case, I
> just don't know if there is proven evidence, that you need to do these two
> things.
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:35 AM Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Set the TX/RX rate at 14400 kbps and turn ECM. I would do that at the
>> machine level first, and/or the dial-peer level second.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 8, 2018, at 12:17, Jonatan Quezada <jonatan.quezada at chemeketa.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> we are finding that after our sip cutover, that our faxes are happiest
>> signalling over a T1 connection that originally we were trying to get away
>> from, however trouble shooting was terrible and we are moving past having
>> all voice traffic on the SIP trunk.
>>
>> Currently we are signalling for voice( calls ) only on the trunk and fax
>> traffic can come in and out via that T1.
>>
>> My question is , still every so often we are seeing fax drops and
>> incomplete page transmissions.
>>
>> looking at the controller the interface is solid no slips and seems to
>> negotiate the connections just fine. but again every so often there are
>> drops or sending fails altogether.
>>
>> We are wanting to try limiting the transmission rates but on the ATA190
>> and 191s you cannot rate limit on the device. It sounds like this needs to
>> done at the dial peer level. if so what is the best starting configuration
>> for the dial peers that will handle on ly fax and go out a certain gateway
>> that has the T1 on it?
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/voice-unified-
>> communications/unified-border-element/115742-fax-modem-call-flows-00.html
>>
>> Im looking at this call flow
>>
>> Telco - PRI - GW - MGCP - CUCM - SIP - ATA187 - Fax/Modem
>> <https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/voice-unified-communications/unified-border-element/115742-fax-modem-call-flows-00.html#anc7>
>>
>> except the ATAs are 190 and 191s
>>
>> If we go the dial peer route, since the DID are not contiguous I will
>> need a dial peer for each one huh?
>>
>>
>>
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