[cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

Tue Oct 23 19:06:01 EDT 2018

I don’t have an easy way to check at the moment, but I think/hope that it’s
not required on the source side of the migration, and it just uses OS
credentials to send a shutdown. I know on the destination side ESXi is
required, because it maps the ISO via NFS, powers up the VM, etc.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM Matthew Loraditch <
MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:

> Good question, because there is no way I’m getting the esxi login.
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> *From:* Dave Goodwin <dave.goodwin at december.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:21:49 PM
> *To:* NateCCIE
> *Cc:* Brian Meade; Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip voyp list
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> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>
> It’s been a while since I did a PCD migration, but does it also require
> that PCD log into ESXi on both the source and destination VMware servers?
> Or does it only need ESXi access on destination?
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM NateCCIE <nateccie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will
>> change the IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.
>>
>>
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>> *From:* cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> *On Behalf Of *Brian
>> Meade
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
>> *To:* Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com>
>> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
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>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
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>> They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything
>> with your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.
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>>
>> Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS
>> partner if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore
>> and even get the DRS Backups from them at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or
>> anything else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could
>> use some talking-points if customers are seeing issues.
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch <
>> MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
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>> Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that
>> caveat doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
>> *To:* Matthew Loraditch
>> *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I
>> happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from
>> time to time.
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all
>> jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure
>> everything anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting
>> perspective.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or what the CCP does to CME?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"
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>> Example:
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>> [image: image.png]
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>> It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep
>> the conventions the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm
>> not sure what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's tweet
>> <https://twitter.com/tannerezell/status/781209477739532288>.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch <
>> MLoraditch at heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>>
>> So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.
>>
>>
>>
>> The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of
>> normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same
>> for the other apps?
>>
>>
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