[cisco-voip] best way to move CUCM Publisher from one host/DC to another

Charles Goldsmith w at woka.us
Wed Dec 11 11:10:35 EST 2019


No sir, never messed with it or needed to.  I've moved a couple of PLM's to
new hardware, even to another vendor's hardware with no issue.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 AM Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <rratliff at cisco.com>
wrote:

> Has anyone run into problems setting a static MAC on your ELM/PLM vm?
> Dynamic mac addresses can definitely bite you but I’m curious how this
> workaround (that we do document as best practice) works in the real world.
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>    - Ryan
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> *From: *cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> Charles Goldsmith <w at woka.us>
> *Date: *Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:37 AM
> *To: *Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com>
> *Cc: *cisco-voip list <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [cisco-voip] best way to move CUCM Publisher from one
> host/DC to another
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> Yes sir, moving to new hosts in the same DC, both hosts plugged into the
> same Nexus on 10gbit.
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> To UC Penguin's point, it was on 6.0
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> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:46 AM Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:
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> Interesting, was it 10GB end2end (nics and all)? I’ve done it on a 1GB
> end2end and got close to 700 mbps (if I recall correctly, 680-682 was the
> highest it hit).
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> Not disagreeing, just interesting... it would be worth some investigating
> someday.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 11, 2019, at 01:50, Charles Goldsmith <w at woka.us> wrote:
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> I'm a big fan of SCP as well, but it's limited to 1 vCPU on the
> encryption, so that seems to limit it more than the links.  I know this
> because trying to move VM's over 10gbit connections and was only getting
> about 400 mbps.
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> If you have a middle pc/jump box, I'm a big fan of simple export/import if
> you don't have a vCenter in the picture.  That way, you get a backup of the
> VM.  vCenter is nice, but migration moves it, doesn't copy, even with
> different storage.
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> I have never tried to use vmkstools, may have to investigate that the next
> time I migrate.
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> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:26 PM Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:
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> Yes, SCP is beholden to the line rate between the hosts. Though VMWare
> doesn’t “recommend” it, I can say I’ve also never had a problem with it,
> FWIW... and yeah, super convenient.
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> Is you have shared storage between the hosts and can migrate the storage
> and compute, I’d power off the VM and just do that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 10, 2019, at 21:20, Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> SCP is so slow and not recommended by VMware*, but damn if it's not
> convenient.
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> Ovftool is super fast but I think it requires a middle PC to be ran from.
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> It would be awesome if you could have the best of both worlds. Like run
> ovftool right on ESXi. I wonder.
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> I have used Veeam free backup to move VMs, which is as fast as ovftool,
> but a huge install for a one time move.
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> *To prevent performance and data management related issues on ESX, avoid
> the use of using scp, cp, or mv for storage operations; instead use
> vmkfstools, VMware's virtual machine Importer tool.
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> https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/1000936
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> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 7:50 PM Ryan Huff <ryanhuff at outlook.com> wrote:
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> I don’t think vMotion would change the MAC address, UUID.. etc and I think
> you’d be fine (not while the VM is powered on though).
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> Typically, what I do is power the VM down and SCP the VM folder to the
> target host from the source host (requires SSH server/client be enabled and
> excluded in the host firewall for the hosts). Then in the target host, add
> the .vmx file into inventory and power on. You’ll initially be asked if you
> moved or copied the VM and you’ll want to select move (if you select copy,
> then it will randomize a few things like nic MAC .. etc).
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> Lastly, remove the source VM from inventory and after you’re sure the
> target VM is healthy and running fine, delete the source VM from storage on
> the source host.
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> Thanks,
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> Ryan
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> On Dec 10, 2019, at 20:42, naresh rathore <nareh84 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> hi
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> We have to migrate our Voice VMs from one host/DC to another host/DC. i
> think if we clone or do vmotion, mac address gets changed and we have to
> apply for license, we may face database corruption.
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> Is there a way which Cisco recommends to do migration, if we have to
> migrate Voice VMs from one host to another?
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> Regards
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> Naray
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