[cisco-voip] Persistent Chat

Anthony Holloway avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com
Wed Feb 13 15:52:39 EST 2019


Thanks for sharing Chris, I hadn't seen that yet, in 12.0.  I'm actually
quite happy that Cisco added this feature.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:24 PM Chris Clouse <Chris.Clouse at cdw.com> wrote:

> Starting in IM&P 12.0, there is a External Database Cleanup Utility on the
> IM&P server to allow for a retention policy/purging to occur for those
> databases.
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> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/im_presence/database_setup/12_0_1/cup0_b_database-setup-guide-1201/cup0_b_database-setup-guide-1201_chapter_0110.html
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> *~Chris*
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> *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Erick Wellnitz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:36 AM
> *To:* Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Persistent Chat
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> If I ever find out what the customer does I'll definitely update
> everyone.  I may even write something in the lab to share if I ever get
> some time.
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> I'd imagine a python script on a small linux host could run every night to
> clean up old entries.
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> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:05 AM Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Oh I see.  Well, since Cisco does mention the following:
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> "We recommend that you maintain the external database according to the
> best practice guidelines described in the product documentation. If you do
> not properly maintain the external database, and you allow the external
> database to fill up, this causes performance problems in the IM and
> Presence Service cluster."
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> It stands to reason that you could just use the method you described
> initially, which is to have your SQL admin write the procedure to delete
> records older than X days.
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> Good luck, and I'd be curious to know which route you take.
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> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> That works for what loads in Jabber  but they're concerned with the
> messages existing in the database which makes them fair game for legal
> discovery.
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> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 7:59 PM Anthony Holloway <
> avholloway+cisco-voip at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is it not just the setting labeled  *Maximum number of messages that can
> be retrieved from the archive?*
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> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:12 AM Erick Wellnitz <ewellnitzvoip at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> All,
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> With the introduction of WebEx Teams the request for persistent chat isn't
> so common anymore.
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> I have a client asking about it and how we can limit how long messages are
> kept in persistent chat.
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> I can't find a native way to do that but was thinking if IM&Presence
> doesn't index the database independently an SQL admin could write a
> procedure to remove entries older than x days.
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> Any thoughts?
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